Diane
Appearances
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Matt is not.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I know. Skips a generation. Skips a generation there. That's funny. Yeah, I wanted him to. And his brother did those things, but not Matt.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I wished he would, but, you know, you can't force somebody to do something like that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, I don't even think he would. You know, sometimes guys go together, but I don't recall that he even did that. I wouldn't be surprised. I liked his guy friends. He had nice friends. So I didn't have any big complaints about him that way.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But it had no protection. If you'd throw the brakes on, the baby would probably die.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
and everyone's calling them Barbie and Ken they were a real cute couple
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And so that was part of it, I think.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
There wasn't even a seat belt law then. It wasn't a real safety car seat. If you'd throw the brakes on, the baby'd probably fly. Oh my gosh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Did they go in the back seat? No, I think I carried the baby in my arms sitting in the passenger seat. I carried the baby home.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We didn't. I didn't know that it was a granddaughter. Did you? Maybe you knew, but I didn't.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, I really wanted a girl because after having two boys, I was hoping to have a little girl in the family. That's sweet.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I took that half day off from school, and I was so looking forward to it. This is terrible. Oh, it's okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No, a Kleenex would be better.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, but poor thing, don't say that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Do not say that. She is not, but... She was a blessing. Thank you. There's more detail to that, but we're not going into that, but... Yeah, she was a blessing. And I took that, I was so excited. I took a half day off school because I would have taken the whole day, but your mother was going to be induced like at four o'clock in the afternoon, wasn't it? Oh, I remember that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes, I definitely remember that. And I thought, well, I shouldn't take the whole day off. But I'll take half. And I couldn't. Oh, my feet weren't even touching the ground when I left the school that day. And we went to the hospital and waited a long time, didn't we?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think that's what I did. I don't remember, but I think so. I know. It's been a few years ago. In the front seat? Wow. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I can do the math on this.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You were 45. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I'm quite a bit older than her. Like 50 and 55? 55 and 51, right? No, I am like four years older than her at least, aren't I? Something like that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We were in the waiting room. Oh, okay.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's intense. Yeah. It's nerve-wracking. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
There wasn't even a seat belt law then, was there? Oh, I'm sure not.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes, a long time before you actually had a date. Yeah, because your mother told me about, she says, there's this great guy that would make a great guy for Abby. He's great.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
handsome he they have so many similarities they both love acting and and he's outgoing like abby abby and everything you know we i mean for years before she told us about you oh this was for years before i even asked at least two years oh it was a while a year or two yeah
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I know. There was nothing to bash about them. There really weren't that many. No, she just had dates for special occasions, but nothing serious. I just had dates for fun, man. Yeah, like prom and homecoming. Just to keep it fun.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, I know your parents were very concerned about that. And actually, we were kind of on your side, but we didn't really want to try to promote, you know, something. The bad influence. Well, not bad influence. I mean, we didn't want to. But you came to our house to tell us how bad it was, you know, that things weren't going so well. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
really yeah the the seat that you put the baby in was called an infant seat and it was just a plastic wasn't it was it just i think and you'd put a blanket in it and put the baby in it and hope for the best wow hope for the best don't throw the brakes on
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And we did think you were very young and really kind of preferred that you would finish college before you got married. We thought that was what you should really do. But, you know, it really wasn't our decision. We were a couple of generations removed.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And younger than her parents did, too. Yep, younger than the parents.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I wish that you would have, but, you know, it's obvious that it wasn't necessary.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes, yes, true, very true.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, my goodness. We had no clue. No clue. Yeah. I remember when you first started doing it, you got, oh, you got a free pizza. Well, that's nice. We got a free pizza? No, you got some free Mexican food. Some Mexican franchise. Oh, yeah. Remember? I thought, well, that's nice. Shout out to Moe's. I had no clue how it could go from there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Didn't you know that would happen?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's still weird. It's still, it's amazing. Yeah, it is. It's kind of unbelievable. It is. It really is.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes, it is. Our friends, I'll say, well, you know, they have a lot of followers, so they can kind of be, they're like good advertisers, and that makes a lot of money to do that. Yeah. I know. My hairdresser, Chris, he doesn't get it. He doesn't get it?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I had a stroller. But it was a separate stroller, right? Yeah, separate. It wasn't part of the plastic infant seat. Because you've seen how all these like pops into a stroller. No, that's new age to me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't think I explain it very well. Yeah. I just say that they do TikToks, YouTube, and Instagram. Instagram. Well, of course, young people are very familiar with that, but older people don't quite get it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
A couple of times.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Just recently. I was in Dollar General. And this really sweet young woman, the same age as Abby, said something to me. I saw her smile at me in the parking lot. I had a smile back. I thought, what a friendly, sweet girl. And then in the store, she came up to me and she said, you're Abby's grandma, aren't you? I said, yes, I am. And she went on. She said, I went to school with her.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And she told me your name. And that she liked you a lot and she followed you. Remember I told you about her?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And then one time I was in the grocery store and just a very young girl came up to me and said something about seeing me on something. And there's been people at my church have told me.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Of course not. I have a 10-year-old grandson and I follow... I follow him currently. I'm following him. His teacher posts almost everyday pictures and things that are going on in their class. And I get it on my laptop. I follow him. I could on my phone, but I'm not set up to do that. So I watch him on laptop. And I just love all the things they do. I wish I'd known about these things.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No, I don't think so. I was an inventor.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
For instance, we had the kids sit at desks for the most part. And then... A lot of teachers went to the tables. I never really did. I pushed desks together, but I still wanted to have their stuff in their desk instead of having them in a cubby. I wasn't really doing it the way they liked, but...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But I like the way my grandson's class and his sister and brother before him, I followed them whenever their teacher, it was their choice whether or not they post this information. But they can sit almost anywhere they want, any way they want. And sometimes there are kids who have energy. They can go and jump on a trampoline or something to kind of get their energy.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Just wonderful ideas like that. Those are all new to me. Were you familiar with those? No. I think they call it alternative seating in school.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And I really wasn't familiar with it. And then I just saw something not too long ago. They were doing a math sheet, and she turned the lights off in the room, and they could use flashlights to do their math sheet, you know, just fun ways to do things.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And I can't even begin to describe all the fun.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's a whole lot of work to keep that updated. Yeah, she posts that and puts little sentences on it explaining what they're doing and takes several pictures. And you can just see, hoping you'll see your grandson in one of the pictures. So it's really neat.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It was great. It was a big deal. Because you could look and see. Instead of ordering, I don't like to order things. I like to see what I'm buying. I loved that they had the store where you could go.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes, lots of money. But also, I know in our public school system, each teacher was allotted so much money for supplies, like getting ready for the next year maybe. And I would go there and get stuff for my next school year.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You say before. I mean, I remember watching I Love Lucy on TV as an adult. Didn't you? Sure. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Okay. Wasn't it the 50s? I remember watching it when I lived at home with my parents, I think. I remember my mother really cracking up. The 50s.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think community theater was kind of her launching pad for that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah, she was in the best Christmas pageant ever. She and her brother, were you like seven and five?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
The memorization of those lines.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think I saw every performance.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It was just awesome. It really was.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You're almost at the beginning of television there. I was 10 years old in 54. Oh.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
One play for four years in a row. Four years in a row. And yeah, we knew somebody in Quincy who had season tickets to the Muny. And... Your mom would make arrangements for us to get them and pay him back for them. So we could have, is it called box seats? Right in the front. Because I remember the first performance, we were back a ways. I can't see her. It was frustrating. You had to look quick.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You didn't have big roles. The last one you had quite a few when you were a flying monkey and all that. My big debut.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
The Muni is an awesome place to go. There's nothing like outdoor theater in the summertime there. Oh, it's the best place in the world.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think we stayed with Mike and Jen.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It was fun. It really was.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No, I didn't have to discipline her.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, Grandma, you did, and you were pregnant. Oh, yes, I was. It wasn't a very fast moving. I was on State Street. Somebody bumped me from behind, and when I got out of the car, I was pretty far along, and the guy behind me was just scared to death. He says, are you all right?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But then they showed reruns for years after that, I think.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I was about nine months. Oh, no. Well, he was born a little bit early, so I was about as far as I was going to get. Yeah. I think it was like the week before he was born. The man was very concerned for me, but I was okay. I think my car was, too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Not fast at all.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Cars were really bigger on the inside. I can remember being down in the plane, I mean, being on the floor, sitting on the floorboard.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
We didn't have a station wagon, but my dad would try to drive through. We just went to Tennessee, and we would try to drive through, and one day... To get there so we wouldn't be staying in hotels. We did too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't remember even working out in those days. Pregnant or not, I don't remember working out very much.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I walked a lot. I walked a lot. I would push Matt in a stroller around the neighborhood a lot. Mm-hmm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Probably. I don't remember. I mean, you just have to go by what the hospital rules are.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, it was Jane Fonda.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes, I've heard of that before. Wait, really?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Was that ever something that you tried out? I don't even know people really knowing the science behind those fad diets.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I remember hearing about the grapefruit diet, but I don't remember doing it. I was in Topps Clubs a couple times.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No, this was actually so unacceptable. And Weight Watchers, of course, too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Didn't you have a mantra you had to say at your fitness class? We had a thing we said. Say it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't think so. The boys, my boys can because they went with me to it. You don't remember it? I had to take them. I mean, it wasn't like I was going to get a babysitter for Topps Club, so they went with me to Topps Club. What does top stand for? Take off pounds sensibly.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Say it, say it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I am an intelligent person. I will not use food to satisfy my... Frustrated desires build up my injured ego or dull my senses. Something like that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Toxic. Yeah. Hopefully they have learned a lot. See, they didn't know the science. Just like you talk about those. I don't think anybody knew the science behind those dyes. Do you?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Let's see. Something like that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Probably. Well, yeah, I'm sure I did. Well, I mean, I don't think it was very much. It was just probably a few cents or something. I mean, it wasn't a big amount of money.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Mostly you were counting calories. Interesting. You were counting calories.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Sure.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Popcorn and all kinds of things.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think some people still count calories. No. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You shouldn't beat yourself up about it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You're fun grandmas. Well, we do. I certainly do. I love shopping with both of you. Do you remember your grandma? Oh, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, I know it. Women of that age, like my grandma, Nelson, she had a lot of kids. They didn't all survive. She had a rough life, really. I mean, they did everything from scratch. At least my grandma did. Even your mom did. They worked hard. They worked hard. They did.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think when you're raised by parents like that, they want you to get an education. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, in my immediate family, I was.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Mm-hmm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
How old were you during World War II? You had to be really young. Well, I was born in 44, so that was kind of, the war was still going on, but it was about, it was toward the end of it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, they've changed. That's for sure.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I kind of, I remember the burning of the bras. Oh, yeah, that's true.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't know. What was that?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't know. I can't even remember. Maybe that's too progressive for you guys. I can't even believe you're asking that question.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But when I was in high school, I remember thinking, well, do I want to be a nurse or do I want to be a teacher? Yeah, exactly. I didn't really see any other.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's about it. I didn't see other opportunities for women.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No, I never heard of a woman engineer. Really, I didn't. There may have been. I'm sure there were. I didn't know any. But I didn't know. I didn't certainly know any.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, a lot of women were secretaries. But that's about all I can remember women being. I remember I went to a school at Western Illinois University. It was very much of an agricultural school because that's an agricultural area. But at that time... But, I mean, there were no, I'm pretty sure there were no women in the agriculture department. But now I have a great niece.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
She's majoring in some phase of agriculture. And I have another, my husband had a cousin's daughter who is an agriculture teacher, and she's outstanding teacher.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
The medication that they gave me just, it did, it just put me to sleep.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I kind of think so. Yeah, it was. Yeah, I used to like to play school.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I liked school a lot when I was a kid. I loved school. I loved my teachers. I don't know if they loved me as much as I loved them. They were pretty strict. They were strict. You know, teachers were pretty strict when I went to school. How so? I don't remember ever being hugged by a teacher when I was, you know, really, they just didn't do that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
So you just woke up and your baby's there. I woke up and I said, I asked, have I had my baby? Yeah. I had a horrible headache. And so she put her hand on me and said, yes, you have. I said, what was it? Because you didn't know. You didn't know. No. They didn't have ultrasound or whatever it is that you, is that what you have to see what the sex of the baby is?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And I think it was much different for even my dad. I remember him. I remember he admired his teachers very much. They were really respected in the community. And if you got in trouble in school, you were going to get in trouble at home too because they really respected the teachers. And you did not ever disrespect the teacher. That has really changed.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, definitely.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Definitely. Definitely.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah. It all stems from the home. And unfortunately, American family is just not what it used to be.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't know. I shouldn't say. I'm no expert.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It feels that way. Your perception, how you feel.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Part of it was the schools that I taught in.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But your mother, you should have her on a podcast about...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, yeah. I have, but I don't look too often. How does it make you feel? I was like, oh, yeah. Terrible. Yeah, I don't want anybody saying anything against my great-grandchildren. I know, I don't like it.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And blood tests do also show that. No, I didn't. Did you?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I know sometimes I've been tempted to comment them, and I think, well, no, don't do that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, I... I know. I have to really. I really try to cool it. I can. No, you're good. You're good.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't know if I knew or not. No, people did.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Of course. Where were you? I was teaching.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I was in the, it was recess, and we were in the basement of the school where the restrooms are, monitoring kids, and one of my colleagues came up to me and said that a passenger plane has been, what was her word? Has been, what was the word?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Hijacked. Hijacked. Hijacked, okay. A passenger plane has been hijacked and flown into one of the Trade Center buildings And I just remember, I thought, I just remember those, trying to comprehend those words that she just said to me. How could that be? And I remember, you know, it was just shocking to all of us. And as soon as there was a... Well, then that was recess.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think they put a TV on in the Resource Center, and we all went in there and were watching, and we were just stunned. I don't know how else to express it. Just stunned. What is going on in this world that this could happen? It was just stunning. Mm-hmm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I remember that. You remember that too? I know right where I was. I do too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It was a very scary time. I know. I was getting ready to make an observation. I was in college at the lab school. My college had a school where it was just a regular school, but it was used for teacher training. And I was waiting to make an observation. And I just wasn't observing the body language of people.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I remember there was a science teacher who had a cart with all of his science paraphernalia on it. He would probably go from class to class to teach. And there was a janitor, and they stopped and they talked and shook his head back and forth. And I thought, I just could tell there was something wrong. I thought, what is going on here?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And then finally, somebody came up to me and told me that the president had been shot. I don't remember if I knew that he'd died yet or not.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think he might have died, but he wasn't pronounced dead. I think he was pretty gone when they shot him. And then I just so happened, I had a history class after that. I had a history class after that. And, of course, that's all the history teacher was talking about. We didn't do any, obviously, we did nothing about school, just talking about that. And I think it was a Friday, wasn't it?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
To knock you out. Yeah. Wow. So then since you weren't awake, a lot of times they had to use forceps to deliver the baby. Really? Matt had a very dented head. Oh. And his head was very long because I had been in labor for, you know, what do they call pre-labor for several days.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Griffin seems to call me grandma because Abby does. Yeah, and I call you grandma, but then I feel like...
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes. It's much better now. So you were... knocked out for both babies no with michael i don't i didn't even know that they kept that great of records but i think i think my doctor knew that i that that the amount that they had given me you know three years earlier was too much and so they cut it back and so i wasn't completely out
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Frippin' do it. Fiffin'.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
GGG. And then... You don't really care what they call you just so you have a relationship with them. Exactly.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I think to eat.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I worked at a variety store in my hometown, which was a very small town. I probably got the job because the people who owned the store, I went to church with them. And I think I was 16. I think I was. I got 60 cents an hour. 60 cents? Yeah. I did. I guess I wasn't good help. Oh, my goodness. I never even got a raise. I would work from 12 to 5 on Saturdays. Wow. So what does that get you?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
$3.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
$3? $3 for the, and actually $3 would buy a whole lot more back then. I'm sure. Yeah. Would that get you a tank of gas? I wasn't driving. Well, I guess I would be about the age where I was getting a license, but I don't think I put gas in the car. I think my parents did.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I would get a permanent every three months. I would get a fro because it was so easy to take care of. I tried to get rid of my natural fro.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
My mom was a good cook. Is that what you mean? She made good noodles. Yeah, she did, and I didn't get a recipe. I've never made a noodle in my life.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
They were delicious, though. Yeah. My dad would have a big garden, and she would freeze and can the vegetables and fruits.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I remember hearing about computers being called, I mean, the information highway, and I didn't quite know what they meant. But boy, do I now know now. I mean, it's just awesome what you can learn. You should see her all day every day.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Am I? Are you using it? Oh my. Okay. I've heard be careful with it, but I don't know much about that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Do you listen to our podcasts? I do. I do. I mean, I certainly haven't listened to a hundred. I missed a few, but- Wow.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Thank you. That's really sweet. I can't honestly say I've listened to most of them, but I watch you on Instagram all the time. Yes. There's not a day goes by which I don't Instagram. And I do watch the podcast, especially the people that I know. Yes. If I don't know them, but I have watched a few that I didn't know, but mostly it's the people that I kind of know that I've watched. Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
And I've watched, like I say, I've watched some of the others too.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I know people at church will say, I think you're going to have a boy because they had their own philosophies about. That's fun. Mm-hmm.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, yeah. Last week?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, don't. Don't. Just cut it there. Let it in there.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
No, she does not want to.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
But you still – No, I just suggested you might read something else. But that wasn't – that I was all – I started reading Harry Potter and that was really good. But I got kind of dark. So I – Yeah. Yeah. I see that. So then I quit.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
What's going on there? Actually, I know a lot of adults that read them. I know a lot of adults that read the Harry Potter series. Yeah. Maybe it's because a lot of people I knew were teachers. I don't know.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's true. I love children's literature.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Two was considered what you should have.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, that was... Yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Mm-hmm. Oh, they probably didn't have birth control when you're... Oh, yeah, yeah.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, that's true. Driving home from the hospital with a new baby... Who knows what they're doing at that? You have no clue what you're in for. Raising a child, it's huge. But you were also in the hospital for how long were you in the hospital? Several days. I know I was in for a week. I was too. A week? Yeah. That was standard. And you would be so weak.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I mean, I was weak as a kitten when I came home. Because you had so much medication? Yeah. Well, you had a lot of stitches from the forceps and everything, you know, and so you're just exhausted. Yeah. Because I don't, you know, I don't remember getting up and walking and... You?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, right.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Usually, if you felt that was necessary, you'd take the child to the principal. And the principal would do it. And they would make that decision. They would do it. Was that the way it was for you?
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
That's what I taught for the lower grades, like first, second grade mostly.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, maybe the kids who were naughty might not have liked the principal.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Well, no, it's not that they were not. I said that a lot of the kids that I happened to teach were, you know, they came from homes where they had very big challenges. Let's put it that way. Very big challenges.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yes.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
For me, not her, right? No, not necessarily.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I didn't know Diane until Matt and Lori.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Not true.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I don't think you should talk about that.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Yeah, that's right.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I guess.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh. You don't remember? I think you may have invited us to your home. I remember that Greg had all, he really loved antiques, and you had a lot of really interesting antiques in your house. That's kind of something I remember. Mm-hmm. Well, that's interesting.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
It's much easier to be the mother of the groom than it is to be the mother of the bride.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Your main responsibility is a rehearsal dinner. That's true.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
You know, it could be individual parents make those decisions.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
I was delighted with Lori. She was a darling blonde girl, so cute. She was a catch for Matt, a real catch for Matt. And he really hadn't dated much.
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Oh, that's not true of Lori. I don't know. I bet really not very much. There might have been one other girl or maybe two at college. He did not go to prom or homecoming.