
The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby
Becoming a great grandmother, 1960s fad diets & 'the burning of the bras' w/ my Grandmas
Wed, 18 Dec 2024
Abby’s grandmothers, Vicky and Diane, join Matt and Abby to share stories from their lives, including 1960s fad diets, driving without baby car seats, and their memories of JFK’s assassination. They also reflect on women’s rights over the decades and their first impressions of Abby when she was born. This episode is sponsored by Factor, ZocDoc, BetterHelp & Nutrafol. Factor: Head to https://factormeals.com/unplanned50 and use code 50UNPLANNED to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. ZocDoc: Go to https://Zocdoc.com/UNPLANNED and download the Zocdoc app for FREE! BetterHelp: Visit https://BetterHelp.com/unplannedpodcast today to get 10% off your first month. Nutrafol: Visit https://nutrafol.com and enter promo code UNPLANNED for $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What was it like holding Abby for the first time?
What was that like holding Abby for the first time? It made me cry.
This is terrible. Oh, it's okay. This is where I get it from, man.
Did you guys even put your baby in a car seat? Was that something that you did?
There wasn't even a seat belt law then. It wasn't a real safety car seat. If you'd throw the brakes on, the baby'd probably fly. Oh my gosh.
Through your life, do you feel like you've seen women's rights change a lot? The opportunities for women have multiplied tremendously. Didn't you have a mantra you had to say at your fitness class? We had a thing we said. My ex's poundage is there for all the world to see. What a fool I've been.
Wow, the times have changed.
I feel very blessed to have such close relationships with both my grandmas. It's going to be funny having them together on this. We're going to get a little sassiness, a little humor, and it's going to be really sweet because I think the relationship I have with both of you guys is very special.
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Chapter 2: Did you use car seats for babies back then?
It is really sweet. And I think what's so interesting, Diane and I were on a one hour drive to get here. I picked her up from her place out east and we were driving and we were just talking about all the differences between your generation and our generation. And I kind of want to get into that because something I was thinking about is when I brought our son home from the hospital,
I was so nervous about driving well below the speed limit on the highway and getting him perfectly positioned in his car seat. But when you guys drove home with your children from the hospital, did you guys even have car seats? Did you put your baby in a car seat? Was that something that you did?
I had those plastic... It wasn't a real safety car seat. It was just a... a seat that you could put a seat belt around and carry around everywhere.
But it had no protection. If you'd throw the brakes on, the baby would probably die.
Oh my gosh.
Did they go in the back seat? No, I think I carried the baby in my arms sitting in the passenger seat. I carried the baby home.
You literally carried your baby in the passenger seat on the way home from the hospital, and that's what everybody did.
I think that's what I did. I don't remember, but I think so. I know. It's been a few years ago. In the front seat? Wow. Yeah.
Was there even a belt to buckle in the baby carrier thing back in?
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Chapter 3: How have women's rights changed over the decades?
really yeah the the seat that you put the baby in was called an infant seat and it was just a plastic wasn't it was it just i think and you'd put a blanket in it and put the baby in it and hope for the best wow hope for the best don't throw the brakes on
And your infant seat probably didn't turn into like a baby carrier or turn into a stroller like we have today.
I had a stroller. But it was a separate stroller, right? Yeah, separate. It wasn't part of the plastic infant seat. Because you've seen how all these like pops into a stroller. No, that's new age to me.
Yeah, it's even new for now.
Was that even a thought when you're holding your baby in the passenger seat on the highway? Were you thinking, hey, maybe they should invent something to make this a little bit safer? Yeah.
No, I don't think so. I was an inventor.
Were you allowed to have your husbands in the room when you had a baby back then?
No.
See, I heard that because actually I was watching I Love Lucy and I was like, that's crazy. But that was before when you guys were having babies. But still, I wonder when that was that you could have your spouse in the room.
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Chapter 4: What were the differences in childbirth experiences?
Correct.
So once you're about to deliver the baby, they had to leave.
Once they wheeled you away from the labor room and took you to the delivery room.
Wow.
Is that from modesty? Yeah.
i have no clue maybe they just didn't want to mess with well probably with a nervous father in there i mean they don't let spouses in there for surgeries now so it's probably just like a medical practice i didn't really know that you could go in for surgery no they don't usually they will let them for c-sections but they don't let you the spouse in there like when you get your spinal tap or anything so it's probably just like per the hospital but now universally husbands are allowed in there
And I want to say.
It's kind of sad that the dad couldn't be there when the baby first arrived.
But yeah, I think Abby told me that you got like knocked out or something for the birth of your kids, right?
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Chapter 5: What was the experience of being a grandparent like?
Your main responsibility is a rehearsal dinner. That's true.
You get your own thing. I wonder if also the tradition will change by the time... I think it's already kind of changing. By the time Griffin and Augie get married, I want to be involved, but you don't want to feel like you're, I don't know, overstepping in a way. Because even though it's about the couple, it is kind of widely viewed as the bride's day in a way.
Well, Diane, did you guys flip the bill? I know typically the tradition is the bride's family pays for the wedding. So was that something that you guys... Did back then?
I think we pretty well did that, except for the rehearsal dinner then was always the... And the honeymoon, right? There were rules that, you know, you could kind of halfway follow at least. You didn't have to think too hard about things, so...
That's fun. It's weird that that's the standard, too. It's like, maybe it should be a 50-50 split. Or it's like, also, why are the parents even paying for it?
You know, it could be individual parents make those decisions.
We'll see you then.
What were your first memories of Abby's parents being together? Because I don't know. I don't know if you've ever asked your grandmas what it was like.
Oh, I've had a lot of conversations. Didn't people call my mom and dad Ken and Barbie or whatever? Yeah. Yeah, they were a very cute couple.
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