Dino Mavrookas

So it's the opposite of what we're building because you have one person on a joystick and you have three or four people behind that person reading all the sensor data coming off of the aircraft saying, hey, I'm seeing this over here, turn left. I'm seeing that over there, turn right. It actually takes about four or five people to pilot one Predator drone because a human's controlling everything.

So it's the opposite of what we're building because you have one person on a joystick and you have three or four people behind that person reading all the sensor data coming off of the aircraft saying, hey, I'm seeing this over here, turn left. I'm seeing that over there, turn right. It actually takes about four or five people to pilot one Predator drone because a human's controlling everything.

It's just, they're just not actually in the cockpit. They're in a connex box in Las Vegas. So that's man in the loop. Then there's man on the loop, which then flips that. And you go from many to one to one to many. And that's what we're building at Ceronic. It's how do you have a ton of systems out in the field that are all collecting information. The information is processed at the edge.

It's just, they're just not actually in the cockpit. They're in a connex box in Las Vegas. So that's man in the loop. Then there's man on the loop, which then flips that. And you go from many to one to one to many. And that's what we're building at Ceronic. It's how do you have a ton of systems out in the field that are all collecting information. The information is processed at the edge.

It's just, they're just not actually in the cockpit. They're in a connex box in Las Vegas. So that's man in the loop. Then there's man on the loop, which then flips that. And you go from many to one to one to many. And that's what we're building at Ceronic. It's how do you have a ton of systems out in the field that are all collecting information. The information is processed at the edge.

then pass up into a universal kind of mission planner control system, and then shown to a human in a very condensed fashion that reduces the cognitive load on the human, not trying to interpret or digest all the information coming off of thousands of sensors across hundreds of boats, right? So one person, not really in the loop, but on the loop saying, oh, check, thread over there.

then pass up into a universal kind of mission planner control system, and then shown to a human in a very condensed fashion that reduces the cognitive load on the human, not trying to interpret or digest all the information coming off of thousands of sensors across hundreds of boats, right? So one person, not really in the loop, but on the loop saying, oh, check, thread over there.

then pass up into a universal kind of mission planner control system, and then shown to a human in a very condensed fashion that reduces the cognitive load on the human, not trying to interpret or digest all the information coming off of thousands of sensors across hundreds of boats, right? So one person, not really in the loop, but on the loop saying, oh, check, thread over there.

Authorize to proceed. Check. Human has control of the platform. And in all of these things, I'm going to be clear, humans always have control. Humans are making decisions where they go. It's just how far along the, where in the kill chain are you putting approval processes? Then there's men out of the loop, which means the autonomous system's just alone and unafraid and doing whatever it wants.

Authorize to proceed. Check. Human has control of the platform. And in all of these things, I'm going to be clear, humans always have control. Humans are making decisions where they go. It's just how far along the, where in the kill chain are you putting approval processes? Then there's men out of the loop, which means the autonomous system's just alone and unafraid and doing whatever it wants.

Authorize to proceed. Check. Human has control of the platform. And in all of these things, I'm going to be clear, humans always have control. Humans are making decisions where they go. It's just how far along the, where in the kill chain are you putting approval processes? Then there's men out of the loop, which means the autonomous system's just alone and unafraid and doing whatever it wants.

And we actually have these types of systems, like our Aegis weapon systems on our destroyers that are for incoming air defense. Those are out of the loop. You've said it on the show, and I'm... simplifying this obviously, but you put it on the ship, you press a button, you enable it, and then if aerial threats come in, you're gonna shoot them down, right?

And we actually have these types of systems, like our Aegis weapon systems on our destroyers that are for incoming air defense. Those are out of the loop. You've said it on the show, and I'm... simplifying this obviously, but you put it on the ship, you press a button, you enable it, and then if aerial threats come in, you're gonna shoot them down, right?

And we actually have these types of systems, like our Aegis weapon systems on our destroyers that are for incoming air defense. Those are out of the loop. You've said it on the show, and I'm... simplifying this obviously, but you put it on the ship, you press a button, you enable it, and then if aerial threats come in, you're gonna shoot them down, right?

And you can imagine, if an aerial threat, if a missile was coming in, say there's like five missiles, you don't want a person to be like, Oh, yep, that's a missile. Shoot it down. Oh, yep, that's another one. Oh, shit, here comes 10 more. Yeah, right. You just want a computer to say, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And all the missiles get shot down.

And you can imagine, if an aerial threat, if a missile was coming in, say there's like five missiles, you don't want a person to be like, Oh, yep, that's a missile. Shoot it down. Oh, yep, that's another one. Oh, shit, here comes 10 more. Yeah, right. You just want a computer to say, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And all the missiles get shot down.

And you can imagine, if an aerial threat, if a missile was coming in, say there's like five missiles, you don't want a person to be like, Oh, yep, that's a missile. Shoot it down. Oh, yep, that's another one. Oh, shit, here comes 10 more. Yeah, right. You just want a computer to say, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And all the missiles get shot down.

So there's men in the loop, on the loop, and out of the loop. The reason why the AI living on the edge is so critical is because in any type of real conflict, and you're seeing this in Ukraine, is there's going to be massive amounts of electronic warfare and there's going to be communications jamming. So not only does that remote control system not scale,

So there's men in the loop, on the loop, and out of the loop. The reason why the AI living on the edge is so critical is because in any type of real conflict, and you're seeing this in Ukraine, is there's going to be massive amounts of electronic warfare and there's going to be communications jamming. So not only does that remote control system not scale,

So there's men in the loop, on the loop, and out of the loop. The reason why the AI living on the edge is so critical is because in any type of real conflict, and you're seeing this in Ukraine, is there's going to be massive amounts of electronic warfare and there's going to be communications jamming. So not only does that remote control system not scale,