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Dino Mavrookas

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1458 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

because you can't control hundreds or thousands of boats altogether with people sitting next to each other trying to figure out what each other are doing. You just can't do it. Not only does it not scale, in a scenario where there's real jamming or electronic warfare, those radio links that are from the joystick to the platform go dead. And now that's rendered useless.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

because you can't control hundreds or thousands of boats altogether with people sitting next to each other trying to figure out what each other are doing. You just can't do it. Not only does it not scale, in a scenario where there's real jamming or electronic warfare, those radio links that are from the joystick to the platform go dead. And now that's rendered useless.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

because you can't control hundreds or thousands of boats altogether with people sitting next to each other trying to figure out what each other are doing. You just can't do it. Not only does it not scale, in a scenario where there's real jamming or electronic warfare, those radio links that are from the joystick to the platform go dead. And now that's rendered useless.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

So you need autonomous systems with intelligence living at the edge that don't require constant connectivity, back to a satellite or human or whatever, able to know what to do. What's the mission? How do I process information? What information do I have to get sent back to the headquarters before I do the next step? What happens if I don't hear from headquarters? Okay, great.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

So you need autonomous systems with intelligence living at the edge that don't require constant connectivity, back to a satellite or human or whatever, able to know what to do. What's the mission? How do I process information? What information do I have to get sent back to the headquarters before I do the next step? What happens if I don't hear from headquarters? Okay, great.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

So you need autonomous systems with intelligence living at the edge that don't require constant connectivity, back to a satellite or human or whatever, able to know what to do. What's the mission? How do I process information? What information do I have to get sent back to the headquarters before I do the next step? What happens if I don't hear from headquarters? Okay, great.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

Oh, I only have five kilobytes of bandwidth. Let me process this information down. Let me shrink it. Let me send only the most important information necessary for the mission back. So all of those things are hypercritical. All of that has to be defined through software. And that's fundamentally why man in the loop just does not work.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

Oh, I only have five kilobytes of bandwidth. Let me process this information down. Let me shrink it. Let me send only the most important information necessary for the mission back. So all of those things are hypercritical. All of that has to be defined through software. And that's fundamentally why man in the loop just does not work.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

Oh, I only have five kilobytes of bandwidth. Let me process this information down. Let me shrink it. Let me send only the most important information necessary for the mission back. So all of those things are hypercritical. All of that has to be defined through software. And that's fundamentally why man in the loop just does not work.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

Now, the difference between man on the loop and man out of the loop is really just

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

Now, the difference between man on the loop and man out of the loop is really just

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

Now, the difference between man on the loop and man out of the loop is really just

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

approvals it's really just a government regulation and policy that needs to get set and the argument that i hear from folks is okay do we really want robots making decisions on who'd kill no no but don't think of it like that because it's not the right way to think about it if you're in a combat scenario the robot isn't deciding who's Do I get employed here? Do I put a weapon system in this area?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

approvals it's really just a government regulation and policy that needs to get set and the argument that i hear from folks is okay do we really want robots making decisions on who'd kill no no but don't think of it like that because it's not the right way to think about it if you're in a combat scenario the robot isn't deciding who's Do I get employed here? Do I put a weapon system in this area?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

approvals it's really just a government regulation and policy that needs to get set and the argument that i hear from folks is okay do we really want robots making decisions on who'd kill no no but don't think of it like that because it's not the right way to think about it if you're in a combat scenario the robot isn't deciding who's Do I get employed here? Do I put a weapon system in this area?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

No. The human saying, I'm going to put a weapon system there. It's just, am I putting a smart weapon system or a dumb weapon system? What type of weapon system? Am I firing a torpedo that I can't call back? Or am I using an autonomous boat with other autonomous systems that I can call back because I can still control it through software.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

No. The human saying, I'm going to put a weapon system there. It's just, am I putting a smart weapon system or a dumb weapon system? What type of weapon system? Am I firing a torpedo that I can't call back? Or am I using an autonomous boat with other autonomous systems that I can call back because I can still control it through software.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

No. The human saying, I'm going to put a weapon system there. It's just, am I putting a smart weapon system or a dumb weapon system? What type of weapon system? Am I firing a torpedo that I can't call back? Or am I using an autonomous boat with other autonomous systems that I can call back because I can still control it through software.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

So all of these things come into play when you're saying, OK, how should we really think about autonomy? And even man out of the loop autonomy, you're still saying, OK, this boat's going to go in the water. It's going to patrol this area. And if this type of threat comes in, then you have authority to execute. And you're just giving the approvals all the way through the end of the kill chain.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#205 Dino Mavrookas - Fmr. Navy SEAL (DEVGRU) / CEO of Saronic Technologies

So all of these things come into play when you're saying, OK, how should we really think about autonomy? And even man out of the loop autonomy, you're still saying, OK, this boat's going to go in the water. It's going to patrol this area. And if this type of threat comes in, then you have authority to execute. And you're just giving the approvals all the way through the end of the kill chain.