Dion Fanning

I mean, Sergio Aguero being one.

Sergio Aguero is a player that you would have thought back in 2011 when he joined the club was a player that would end up at, say, Real Madrid or Barcelona.

Never did.

you know, lived instead in the Cheshire countryside rather than going to play back in Spain.

And it feels to me, Haaland, there's always been a career plan there.

Is it really going to be all that time in Manchester?

I'm not sure.

It did big numbers, I'm sure of it, and Jamie Carragher spent most of the weekend defending his point of view.

I don't really get a particular buzz out of those type of... I mean, you can't really compare them.

OK, they did come up against each other, and Guardiola's Barcelona were better than Ferguson's Manchester United of the time.

Having said that...

I suppose if you were to measure the two against each other, was Ferguson a better manager at getting bad teams to win the Premier League?

Pep seemed to need everything to go for him.

I mean, that first season, there is a bit of revisionism over that first season that Pep was there, 2016-17, that it all went badly.

Actually, I went to quite a lot of those games, including I went to the Leicester game, the famous I don't coach tackles game.

Mm-hmm.

and the signs were there that City, at a certain point, were going to be heading in absolutely the right direction, that Guardiola was just adjusting, but it took longer than maybe he would have wanted, but actually he learned a lot during that season, and from there on, you know, he hit full throttle, and City were amazing, but they are and were granted gifts, the other...

He's had a club built in his image where other managers like Ferguson, like Bill Shankly, like Matt Busby, like Brian Clough, had to build the club themselves.

And that's the big difference, isn't it, really?

That's the difference.