Dion Fanning

And so if you are comparing those two, which, again, I find it's a fairly facile thing to do in any case, even though I've just done it, is that...

There's a big difference in the way football is structured these days, isn't there?

Maybe a lot of that is to follow on from the... People saw the success that the structure around Pep at Barcelona and decided to copy it elsewhere.

And so that's what happened at City.

That's what happened to other clubs.

And other clubs haven't been so successful with their sporting directors, particularly when they pile up six or seven of them, as they do at Chelsea.

But it's...

Listen, Pep's been a brilliant manager.

Manchester City have played some brilliant football, but it's a legacy that we wait to see how tainted or otherwise it is.

That's true, but I suppose Guardiola feels like some sort of artiste, like Mozart with patrons.

You go off and do your stuff and we'll sort out the rest of it for you.

Maybe Guardiola is the Mozart of football coaching, but...

maybe it speaks to people's different views of it but um i think the hard work ethic of your ferguson shankley's clubs revenues etc etc speaks to a certain mindset that's like you know building it from yourself uh being part of you know being a community leader you know as matt busby certainly was in manchester that type of thing is important now pep in that

you know, rather teary, you know... Listen, everyone's got to write an open letter to fans these days, don't they?

You know, we've seen them all week.

The one that he wrote to Manchester talking about, you know... Emily Pankhurst.

The Pankhurst and all this stuff, you know.

Obviously, Noel Gallagher gets a mention because, you know, you just have to.

And it's... Yeah.

Empty pandering is what it was, John.