Diplo

I'm not taking credit for that record.

Blackpink Jump's my first number one actual Billboard record, but that record went number one.

Things have changed a lot.

I work in all those different patterns.

Like Benny said to you, like every song started differently.

Like, you know, now I'm starting songs with like, I go back to samples and like rearrange them and put them in Suno and make them different.

But I did learn from some great teachers.

You know, I think my four best teachers is probably like,

know skrillex as far as like sound design like really paying attention to that and like knowing that i'm not good at it and having somebody else do it but when you have something like is that fucking his ear is just like no one uses a laptop like fuck he's like the john mayer of ableton like it's just like yeah nobody can do that um so paying attention to detail is very important you know benny says he does hooks like 10 minutes sometimes but that doesn't always happen you know watching him see like okay this is a strong idea it needs attention i think that's like kind of what i did with lean on

Sometimes working with country guys, some of the best writers, I wrote Heartless with Ernest, I forget his last name, but Ernest is the artist's name too.

Ernest did freestyle a second verse in one minute, but when they're writing verses, some country records are so simple and literal, but they take hours to write one sentence.

You're like, what?

How did that?

Why did it take so long?

Um, so sometimes there's a tension to just being simple too.

So that's one thing I learned.

And then there's like records that just come out of a, you know, five minutes, like, you know, look at me now, you know, that beat was like a beat accident, you know?

It wasn't, I would just had like a weird sound.

I was like, just like pitched ones.

Like, Oh, I learned how to use the pitch bend and Ableton.