Domenico Montanaro

Eastern Time on Thursday, March 26th.

And as of today, the Department of Homeland Security has been without funding for 41 days.

Sam, there was talk earlier this week that Congress might be close to a new funding deal for DHS.

Where does that stand now?

Well, I do wonder whether part of that is this public pressure that seems to be building.

It wasn't really apparent the first couple days DHS was shut down.

But I feel like the Transportation Security Administration issue here in terms of it sounds like a number of workers have quit their jobs.

These are employees who are not getting paid, and that's leading to longer lines at airports.

How is that playing into these negotiations?

Dominica, why do you think the TSA stuff has kind of broken through this week in a way maybe didn't initially?

So Sam, at the core of this dispute is Democrats' demands for reform related to immigration enforcement after the two shootings Domenico mentioned.

Can you remind us what the actual reforms that Democrats are hoping for are?

OK, and then what are Republicans willing to offer?

Are there any of those reforms, I guess, that that they are willing to negotiate on or where do they stand?

ICE got a huge influx of money from the big, beautiful bill.

And so aren't those workers still getting paid?

I guess I'm wondering how that is playing into the leverage that Democrats actually have when it comes to the shutdown.

How else is President Trump kind of playing into all of this?

All right.

Let's take a quick break on more on all of this in just a moment.