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And Domenico, I'm wondering about timing, because after the shootings in Minnesota of two American citizens, there was a real public outcry and a feeling that for many Americans that Trump's immigration enforcement efforts had gone too far.

But as we get weeks and months away from those shootings, do you feel like that has changed the leverage equation here for Democrats in keeping DHS shut down?

Has that played into this?

Are lawmakers bringing that up in terms of is this really the best time to have DHS shut down for more than a month?

I mean, when we had that government shutdown, the record long government shutdown last fall, a few Democrats ended up breaking ranks to vote to reopen the government.

Does it seem like that's where we're headed, Sam, in terms of the most likely outcome?

It feels like we're in an age of eternal government shutdown one way or the other.

And at the same time, I feel like I've seen polling where most people say they want lawmakers who compromise.

How do we square those two things?

Why are we in this position where we are just constantly talking about one shutdown or another?

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Which is very different than what most Democrats would run on in a state like Alaska, where you're talking about a lot of conservation efforts, small businesses or small fisheries in this case.