Dominic D'Agostino

That's an autoimmune disorder.

And I know people who have that.

saying going on a carnivore diet cured my vitiligo.

People that are interested in that.

So there's a wide variety of things that it can be therapeutic for.

There's a group in Budapest, Hungary called Paleo Medicina, and I went to their clinic and they pulled their files and I saw everything from type 1 diabetes to cancer to different neurological disorders.

They're showing me blood work longitudinally over time.

Could be cherry-picked the cases, but it was pretty convincing.

And they probably have a dozen or more publications, case series and things like that.

But it's a form of a ketogenic diet.

So I think that's important to understand.

Like a carnivore diet is fundamentally, if practiced the way they do with paleo medicina, where you just focus on super fatty cuts, fatty fish, fatty meats, it's a version of a ketogenic diet.

And I think that's why it works.

The monoester and 1,3-butanediol acetoacetate diester, two acetoacetates on 1,3-butanediol.

So those are two esters.

Sure.

Glad to do that.

I think it's maybe even good to step back a little bit because if you go to clinicaltrials.gov and you search ketone supplement MCT, that's a 8 to 10 carbon fatty acid that can convert to ketones.

So that'll come into the conversation.

But one of the original ketogenic substances was 1,3-butanediol.