Dominic Sandbrook

Because at 10 o'clock that morning, Mustafa Kemal is heading towards the front line.

And he sees some of the Turkish troops retreating.

And he says, why are you running away?

Sir, the enemy.

Where?

Over there.

And they point to this place that the Australians end up calling Battleship Hill, about two miles inland, which is where the Australians have got to.

And Mustafa Kemal comes out with this line that becomes...

Part of Turkish nationalist mythology.

He says to his troops, I don't order you to attack.

I order you to die.

By the time we're dead, other troops and other commanders will be ready to take our places.

And amazingly, I mean, I would find that terrifying and I probably would continue running away.

but the Turks are made of sterner stuff than I am.

And they turn round and they run back into the fray and they drive the Australians back down towards the beach.

I mean, the Australians do love a beach.

They do.

Australians do love a beach.

But you wouldn't associate Australians with going backwards, would you?

No, you wouldn't, no.