Dominic Sandbrook

And that's a very fair-minded verdict, actually.

I mean, it often is mangled, though, isn't it?

Can I just ask, do we know whether over the 19th century and up to this point, whether any eyebrows are raised over the hireling and slave comment?

Or do they just not pay any attention to it?

We heard it being played at a baseball game, didn't we, in November in L.A.?

Yes.

So in that episode on the Marseillaise, I did describe it as the world's first national anthem, but I have now repented of that opinion, as we will be discussing in our next episode on God Save the King.

The Marseillaise is the first national song, but not the first national anthem.

And people who find that intriguing and fascinating do tune into the next episode, because we've got it all.

Yeah, why would we have the English language as our language?

It's amazing that all that the Highland Safe stuff isn't even entering the equation here.

Yeah, there's a kind of craze for those kind of anthems in the late 90th century, isn't there?

Little South Africa.

And the disrespect is because the same reverence that Americans display towards the flag is now being applied towards the anthem.

Is that right?

Or indeed, God Save the Queen, which we will be discussing in our next episode.

That would be money to see that.

Yeah.

He'd be sitting there ripping off his cardigan.

Oh, really?