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Dominic Sandbrook

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The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

Yeah, it's possible.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

The British government has turned abolitionist.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

Yeah, because this is the nightmare that haunted the original Ku Klux Klan, isn't it?

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

In that series that we did after the Civil War.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

I commend him for his objectivity.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

Because everything has changed, because the British government is now committed to abolitionism.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

Right.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

we will catch up with you or you will die.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

I mean, it works both ways though, doesn't it?

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

Of course.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

I mean, that's kind of maybe the, that's poetry.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

Double meaning.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

Yeah.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

So maybe his attitudes evolved.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

It's kind of generated by an anxiety that white and black Americans can never live together.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

I mean, I suppose that...

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

It sounds like this is a man who thinks a lot about slavery and liberty.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

And I guess it has many different shades of meaning.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

Often, particularly in America, those shades of meaning are in direct conflict with each other.

The Rest Is History
677. USA: The Star-Spangled Banner (Part 1)

So perhaps he couldn't resolve those ambiguities.