Dominique Foxworth

I know Waz.

I know Waz incredibly well.

I think that I would say this, Pablo, is like, I feel like there's a lot of bit happening and then we get really close to the truth.

And I can feel that you are very genuine in what you're saying.

I'll give you some honest advice as a friend on or off the show is that you said a lot of the work that goes into it goes unseen.

I think that's what makes you unlikable is that you want people to see it.

And maybe this is the future of journalism.

where the journalist becomes the celebrity and the journalist has a show named after themselves and pounds their chest and says, look at what I did.

It's so hard.

No one else can do this.

But I think that part of what is we all love or the people who do love and appreciate journalism is the story is about the truth.

The story is not about the person who has found the truth.

And maybe again, this is me being an old man in the future of being a good journalist.

And in order to get the funding and the credibility, if we're losing faith in old institutions, that you build up that reputation around the individual who people will trust and put money into.

But don't pretend like you can't put yourself out there as a pioneer and pretend as if pioneers aren't gonna get pilloried.

Like that's the thing that's confusing to me is we all know this to be the case.

And I don't know, like I suspect I'm someone who is supremely confident and I believe I can do just about everything.

And I suspect that Nick Wright is the same way.

But I don't think that I could do investigative journalism because I don't like talking to people that damn much.

So what you're doing is great work.