Donald Hoffman

I'm not talking theorem and proof here.

I'm now speaking very intuitively based on the sciences as it is in the very initial steps.

I should be very, very clear.

I mean, all of science has been about the space-time interface until the last 20 years or so.

We're taking our very, very first baby steps outside of space-time.

And so almost surely all of the ideas that we're having are going to look very naive, you know, a century or two from now.

They'll look back and go, yeah, great generation.

They were the generation that stepped outside of the space-time interface.

Hats off to them.

But boy, were their ideas so parochial.

They were shedding the interface, but boy, they didn't really understand what they were really doing.

Well, yeah.

So I'll just say in the paper I gave you and it'll come out on June 24th, it's going to be made and I'll, I'll tweet it.

Yeah, so it'll be available June 24th, and I'll tweet it when it comes out.

It might be a couple days before that.

I would say that one of the interesting things we're doing in that paper is we're showing how specific properties of the Markovian dynamics of conscious agents map to specific properties of particles like mass, spin, momentum, and energy.

And so I'm not saying we're right, but we now have mathematically precise proposals.

So I mean, for example, these are words that won't make sense, but mass is the entropy rate of recurrent communicating classes of conscious agents.

And just to be clear, what you're saying you can predict now is particle scattering.

This is going to be for particle scattering.