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Donald Robertson

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Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

figures he was like a self-help guru to the rich and famous and roman society and that's how he ended up becoming an advisor to nero so he was a figure that really was compromised by that in a number of ways he was nero's right hand man nero was like a despot a dictator um

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

figures he was like a self-help guru to the rich and famous and roman society and that's how he ended up becoming an advisor to nero so he was a figure that really was compromised by that in a number of ways he was nero's right hand man nero was like a despot a dictator um

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

And he also wrote speeches defending Nero in the Senate and trying to, I mean, ridiculous, like saying that he was virtually a philosopher king and that his hands were unstained by blood and all this kind of stuff.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

And he also wrote speeches defending Nero in the Senate and trying to, I mean, ridiculous, like saying that he was virtually a philosopher king and that his hands were unstained by blood and all this kind of stuff.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

And he also wrote speeches defending Nero in the Senate and trying to, I mean, ridiculous, like saying that he was virtually a philosopher king and that his hands were unstained by blood and all this kind of stuff.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

No, Socrates never sullied himself in that way. There's a guy, Marcus Aurelius' rhetoric teacher, we have his private letters, and Marcus is talking to him about Seneca. We don't see what Marcus wrote. Unfortunately, we only see Fronto's replies. Fronto can't stand Seneca, and he died a few generations earlier, but I think it's partly he doesn't like his writing style.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

No, Socrates never sullied himself in that way. There's a guy, Marcus Aurelius' rhetoric teacher, we have his private letters, and Marcus is talking to him about Seneca. We don't see what Marcus wrote. Unfortunately, we only see Fronto's replies. Fronto can't stand Seneca, and he died a few generations earlier, but I think it's partly he doesn't like his writing style.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

No, Socrates never sullied himself in that way. There's a guy, Marcus Aurelius' rhetoric teacher, we have his private letters, and Marcus is talking to him about Seneca. We don't see what Marcus wrote. Unfortunately, we only see Fronto's replies. Fronto can't stand Seneca, and he died a few generations earlier, but I think it's partly he doesn't like his writing style.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But he says looking for pearls of wisdom in Seneca's writings would be like someone grubbing around in the bottom of a sewer trying to dig a few silver coins out of the filth. Which is what the kids today call a sick burn. That's only something that another sophist could have come up with as an insult.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But he says looking for pearls of wisdom in Seneca's writings would be like someone grubbing around in the bottom of a sewer trying to dig a few silver coins out of the filth. Which is what the kids today call a sick burn. That's only something that another sophist could have come up with as an insult.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But he says looking for pearls of wisdom in Seneca's writings would be like someone grubbing around in the bottom of a sewer trying to dig a few silver coins out of the filth. Which is what the kids today call a sick burn. That's only something that another sophist could have come up with as an insult.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But I think what he means is that Seneca in Rome would have been known more than today for his political speeches defending Nero. And we have a couple of examples of those. We have on clemency, for example, which is this letter to Nero that was probably made public that kind of puts Nero on something of a pedestal. Also tries to improve his character and teach him more clemency or mercy.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But I think what he means is that Seneca in Rome would have been known more than today for his political speeches defending Nero. And we have a couple of examples of those. We have on clemency, for example, which is this letter to Nero that was probably made public that kind of puts Nero on something of a pedestal. Also tries to improve his character and teach him more clemency or mercy.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But I think what he means is that Seneca in Rome would have been known more than today for his political speeches defending Nero. And we have a couple of examples of those. We have on clemency, for example, which is this letter to Nero that was probably made public that kind of puts Nero on something of a pedestal. Also tries to improve his character and teach him more clemency or mercy.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But at the same time, it praises him as a great ruler, which is ridiculous. He was a tyrant. And at the same time that Seneca was defending Nero, and propping up his regime, there were other Stoics that were fighting against Nero and opposing him in the Senate. They're called the Stoic opposition. And several of them died or were exiled, defying Nero. Epictetus...

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But at the same time, it praises him as a great ruler, which is ridiculous. He was a tyrant. And at the same time that Seneca was defending Nero, and propping up his regime, there were other Stoics that were fighting against Nero and opposing him in the Senate. They're called the Stoic opposition. And several of them died or were exiled, defying Nero. Epictetus...

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

But at the same time, it praises him as a great ruler, which is ridiculous. He was a tyrant. And at the same time that Seneca was defending Nero, and propping up his regime, there were other Stoics that were fighting against Nero and opposing him in the Senate. They're called the Stoic opposition. And several of them died or were exiled, defying Nero. Epictetus...

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

who was kind of on the periphery of this because Epictetus kind of came from the next generation, but he was a slave owned by Nero's Greek secretary, a guy called Epaphroditus, who was perhaps also Nero's bodyguard. Uh, according to one source, he was certainly very, very close to Nero. Um, Epictetus idolizes the Stoic opposition and never mentioned Seneca once.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

who was kind of on the periphery of this because Epictetus kind of came from the next generation, but he was a slave owned by Nero's Greek secretary, a guy called Epaphroditus, who was perhaps also Nero's bodyguard. Uh, according to one source, he was certainly very, very close to Nero. Um, Epictetus idolizes the Stoic opposition and never mentioned Seneca once.

Modern Wisdom
#864 - Donald Robertson - The True Story Of History’s Greatest Philosopher

who was kind of on the periphery of this because Epictetus kind of came from the next generation, but he was a slave owned by Nero's Greek secretary, a guy called Epaphroditus, who was perhaps also Nero's bodyguard. Uh, according to one source, he was certainly very, very close to Nero. Um, Epictetus idolizes the Stoic opposition and never mentioned Seneca once.