Donald Robertson
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right and he has research that shows that confirms the suspicion that we all have that we're much better at giving other people advice than we are giving ourselves advice right this is a sensitive subject for psychotherapists right because all we do is give other people advice and stuff but if you go to a psychotherapy conference and walk in the door you would notice immediately that it's full of some of the craziest people you ever meet in your life
like you're saying that being able to give advice to other people is not reliable evidence that you can give advice to yourself yeah but over time i think if you approach it in the right way and i think it has something to do with empathy right if you identify with your clients in a sense that you you put yourself in their shoes and you empathize with them you might to put it very simply start to think maybe i do some of the things that they do to
like you're saying that being able to give advice to other people is not reliable evidence that you can give advice to yourself yeah but over time i think if you approach it in the right way and i think it has something to do with empathy right if you identify with your clients in a sense that you you put yourself in their shoes and you empathize with them you might to put it very simply start to think maybe i do some of the things that they do to
like you're saying that being able to give advice to other people is not reliable evidence that you can give advice to yourself yeah but over time i think if you approach it in the right way and i think it has something to do with empathy right if you identify with your clients in a sense that you you put yourself in their shoes and you empathize with them you might to put it very simply start to think maybe i do some of the things that they do to
Maybe by helping them to see through their own mistakes and to troubleshoot them, I could kind of indirectly learn something about myself. But we're better at giving other people advice. It's been proven by Professor Grossman's research than we are at giving ourselves advice. And Socrates seems to realize this.
Maybe by helping them to see through their own mistakes and to troubleshoot them, I could kind of indirectly learn something about myself. But we're better at giving other people advice. It's been proven by Professor Grossman's research than we are at giving ourselves advice. And Socrates seems to realize this.
Maybe by helping them to see through their own mistakes and to troubleshoot them, I could kind of indirectly learn something about myself. But we're better at giving other people advice. It's been proven by Professor Grossman's research than we are at giving ourselves advice. And Socrates seems to realize this.
This is partly why he thinks engaging in philosophical dialogue about the most important questions in life, as he puts it, is so important. This provides the best mirror he can imagine for learning about our own soul, our own mind, and coming to know ourselves, knowing our strengths and weaknesses, our limitations, and so on.
This is partly why he thinks engaging in philosophical dialogue about the most important questions in life, as he puts it, is so important. This provides the best mirror he can imagine for learning about our own soul, our own mind, and coming to know ourselves, knowing our strengths and weaknesses, our limitations, and so on.
This is partly why he thinks engaging in philosophical dialogue about the most important questions in life, as he puts it, is so important. This provides the best mirror he can imagine for learning about our own soul, our own mind, and coming to know ourselves, knowing our strengths and weaknesses, our limitations, and so on.
There's another technique that he kind of uses, I think, that Professor Grossman has done research on. It might be worth mentioning because I know people are interested in this. Igor Grossman, based on his observations, based on his research, did a study, and there are several studies like this,
There's another technique that he kind of uses, I think, that Professor Grossman has done research on. It might be worth mentioning because I know people are interested in this. Igor Grossman, based on his observations, based on his research, did a study, and there are several studies like this,
There's another technique that he kind of uses, I think, that Professor Grossman has done research on. It might be worth mentioning because I know people are interested in this. Igor Grossman, based on his observations, based on his research, did a study, and there are several studies like this,
where they ask people to keep a journal where they describe they have two groups and one group describes their relationship problems and so on and you know attempting to resolve them in the first person and the other group do the same thing but in the third person so rather than saying you know oh i forgot my wife's birthday and she got really upset with me and i don't know how to make it up to her like i would say donald forgot his wife's birthday and she became really upset with him so in the third person right
where they ask people to keep a journal where they describe they have two groups and one group describes their relationship problems and so on and you know attempting to resolve them in the first person and the other group do the same thing but in the third person so rather than saying you know oh i forgot my wife's birthday and she got really upset with me and i don't know how to make it up to her like i would say donald forgot his wife's birthday and she became really upset with him so in the third person right
where they ask people to keep a journal where they describe they have two groups and one group describes their relationship problems and so on and you know attempting to resolve them in the first person and the other group do the same thing but in the third person so rather than saying you know oh i forgot my wife's birthday and she got really upset with me and i don't know how to make it up to her like i would say donald forgot his wife's birthday and she became really upset with him so in the third person right
As if I'm giving advice to another person, right? And they found, so they said, what happens if you make yourself do this? And they call it distant self-reflection. So by keeping a journal in the third person, they found that people exhibited measurably more wisdom in the advice and the solutions that they came up with for themselves. Now, Socrates does something a bit like that.
As if I'm giving advice to another person, right? And they found, so they said, what happens if you make yourself do this? And they call it distant self-reflection. So by keeping a journal in the third person, they found that people exhibited measurably more wisdom in the advice and the solutions that they came up with for themselves. Now, Socrates does something a bit like that.
As if I'm giving advice to another person, right? And they found, so they said, what happens if you make yourself do this? And they call it distant self-reflection. So by keeping a journal in the third person, they found that people exhibited measurably more wisdom in the advice and the solutions that they came up with for themselves. Now, Socrates does something a bit like that.
He doesn't talk to himself that much in the third person, but usually in the second person. He engages in imaginary or hypothetical dialogues quite a lot. So, for example, he imagines arguing with the laws of Athens at one point in the Critias, and the laws of Athens start criticizing him and questioning him.