Donald Robertson

And he presents Socrates as this guy who's quite witty and humorous, right? So he says things where he... Socrates was the type of guy that would say something to you and you'd think... Is he joking? Is he serious? And the answer is yes and no. He's kind of both joking and serious at the same time, often, I feel.

Yeah, I think that's in Xenophon's symposium. Or it might be in Plato's symposium. In one of the symposiums, he says, and they do it, he asks them to bring out smaller cups. And he says, if we use smaller cups, we could moderate our drinking.

Yeah, I think that's in Xenophon's symposium. Or it might be in Plato's symposium. In one of the symposiums, he says, and they do it, he asks them to bring out smaller cups. And he says, if we use smaller cups, we could moderate our drinking.

Yeah, I think that's in Xenophon's symposium. Or it might be in Plato's symposium. In one of the symposiums, he says, and they do it, he asks them to bring out smaller cups. And he says, if we use smaller cups, we could moderate our drinking.

He says alcohol, I think this is in Xenophon Symposium, he says alcohol is like watering a plant. He goes, if you don't give it enough, then it kind of shrivels up and dies. But if you give it too much, then it wilts. And he goes, this is the effect that I think wine has on conversation at a dinner party. You've got to find just the right level so that people loosen up.

He says alcohol, I think this is in Xenophon Symposium, he says alcohol is like watering a plant. He goes, if you don't give it enough, then it kind of shrivels up and dies. But if you give it too much, then it wilts. And he goes, this is the effect that I think wine has on conversation at a dinner party. You've got to find just the right level so that people loosen up.

He says alcohol, I think this is in Xenophon Symposium, he says alcohol is like watering a plant. He goes, if you don't give it enough, then it kind of shrivels up and dies. But if you give it too much, then it wilts. And he goes, this is the effect that I think wine has on conversation at a dinner party. You've got to find just the right level so that people loosen up.

So he wasn't completely in favor of abstinence. He thought the right amount of wine was conducive to a good philosophical conversation at a dinner party.

So he wasn't completely in favor of abstinence. He thought the right amount of wine was conducive to a good philosophical conversation at a dinner party.

So he wasn't completely in favor of abstinence. He thought the right amount of wine was conducive to a good philosophical conversation at a dinner party.

No, not normally. No. I know I do. But no, he stood for 24 hours. We're told from sunrise one day to sunrise the next day in Potidaea in the middle of a battle. No, we're not in the battle. While they were besieging the city way in the north of Greece, we're told that he just froze and

No, not normally. No. I know I do. But no, he stood for 24 hours. We're told from sunrise one day to sunrise the next day in Potidaea in the middle of a battle. No, we're not in the battle. While they were besieging the city way in the north of Greece, we're told that he just froze and

No, not normally. No. I know I do. But no, he stood for 24 hours. We're told from sunrise one day to sunrise the next day in Potidaea in the middle of a battle. No, we're not in the battle. While they were besieging the city way in the north of Greece, we're told that he just froze and

And some of the other soldiers camped beside him overnight because they were kind of like, is he really going to stand here all night barefoot in the cold? Like they were having bets on it or something. And they watched him and in the morning, I believe Plato says that he said a prayer to the rising sun, which may have been associated with the god Apollo.

And some of the other soldiers camped beside him overnight because they were kind of like, is he really going to stand here all night barefoot in the cold? Like they were having bets on it or something. And they watched him and in the morning, I believe Plato says that he said a prayer to the rising sun, which may have been associated with the god Apollo.

And some of the other soldiers camped beside him overnight because they were kind of like, is he really going to stand here all night barefoot in the cold? Like they were having bets on it or something. And they watched him and in the morning, I believe Plato says that he said a prayer to the rising sun, which may have been associated with the god Apollo.

But one of the themes that runs through the dialogues is Socrates' association with the god Apollo. There's a debate about whether Apollo was associated with the sun that early. I think he was. So it may be Socrates saw the sun as an embodiment of the god Apollo, who's kind of the patron god of philosophy. And it was the priestess of Apollo who said, no man is wiser than Socrates.

But one of the themes that runs through the dialogues is Socrates' association with the god Apollo. There's a debate about whether Apollo was associated with the sun that early. I think he was. So it may be Socrates saw the sun as an embodiment of the god Apollo, who's kind of the patron god of philosophy. And it was the priestess of Apollo who said, no man is wiser than Socrates.

But one of the themes that runs through the dialogues is Socrates' association with the god Apollo. There's a debate about whether Apollo was associated with the sun that early. I think he was. So it may be Socrates saw the sun as an embodiment of the god Apollo, who's kind of the patron god of philosophy. And it was the priestess of Apollo who said, no man is wiser than Socrates.

And it was outside the temple of Apollo that it says, which is this statement maxim that became a kind of theme for the Socratic method in a way. It was pursuing self-knowledge. but they he was in a habit of the Plato tells us he used to regularly just freeze and meditate going to a trance what's the can you dig into the know thyself