Donald Robertson
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And you might not even notice when it happens, but then hours later or the next day, you suddenly start to itch in the spot where you were bitten.
And you might not even notice when it happens, but then hours later or the next day, you suddenly start to itch in the spot where you were bitten.
And you might not even notice when it happens, but then hours later or the next day, you suddenly start to itch in the spot where you were bitten.
and so people would say that's what it's like when you talk to socrates like he'll say stuff and you think that's a stupid argument socrates doesn't it's not really convincing it doesn't make any sense and then 10 years later you're still thinking about it it's kind of bothering you right but for instance one of the other things i i wrote about in my book because again it's very interesting in relation to modern psychology socrates had this radical position that
and so people would say that's what it's like when you talk to socrates like he'll say stuff and you think that's a stupid argument socrates doesn't it's not really convincing it doesn't make any sense and then 10 years later you're still thinking about it it's kind of bothering you right but for instance one of the other things i i wrote about in my book because again it's very interesting in relation to modern psychology socrates had this radical position that
and so people would say that's what it's like when you talk to socrates like he'll say stuff and you think that's a stupid argument socrates doesn't it's not really convincing it doesn't make any sense and then 10 years later you're still thinking about it it's kind of bothering you right but for instance one of the other things i i wrote about in my book because again it's very interesting in relation to modern psychology socrates had this radical position that
that injustice harms the perpetrator more than it does the victim. And he repeats this quite a lot. So people who read that think, that's a hard view to accept. But no one ever forgets it. Anyone that reads the Platonic Dialogues decades later will think, remember Socrates kept going on about this idea that acts of injustice harm the perpetrator more than they do the victim.
that injustice harms the perpetrator more than it does the victim. And he repeats this quite a lot. So people who read that think, that's a hard view to accept. But no one ever forgets it. Anyone that reads the Platonic Dialogues decades later will think, remember Socrates kept going on about this idea that acts of injustice harm the perpetrator more than they do the victim.
that injustice harms the perpetrator more than it does the victim. And he repeats this quite a lot. So people who read that think, that's a hard view to accept. But no one ever forgets it. Anyone that reads the Platonic Dialogues decades later will think, remember Socrates kept going on about this idea that acts of injustice harm the perpetrator more than they do the victim.
In court, he said, you guys that are putting me on trial and convincing the jury to sentence me to death unjustly are harming yourselves more than you're harming me. Epictetus quotes him at the last sentence of the Enchiridion. He says, Anetus and Miletus, the two guys that brought him to trial, can kill me, but they cannot harm me. Which is crazy. That's hardcore.
In court, he said, you guys that are putting me on trial and convincing the jury to sentence me to death unjustly are harming yourselves more than you're harming me. Epictetus quotes him at the last sentence of the Enchiridion. He says, Anetus and Miletus, the two guys that brought him to trial, can kill me, but they cannot harm me. Which is crazy. That's hardcore.
In court, he said, you guys that are putting me on trial and convincing the jury to sentence me to death unjustly are harming yourselves more than you're harming me. Epictetus quotes him at the last sentence of the Enchiridion. He says, Anetus and Miletus, the two guys that brought him to trial, can kill me, but they cannot harm me. Which is crazy. That's hardcore.
First of all, the guy that believes that, hats off to him. Like, you know, no wonder he was resilient. Do we agree with him? There may be a case for it, but it's an extreme... A bit like, you know, an extreme version of stoicism, basically. Nevertheless... In relation to modern psychology, I think there's a lot we can take from it.
First of all, the guy that believes that, hats off to him. Like, you know, no wonder he was resilient. Do we agree with him? There may be a case for it, but it's an extreme... A bit like, you know, an extreme version of stoicism, basically. Nevertheless... In relation to modern psychology, I think there's a lot we can take from it.
First of all, the guy that believes that, hats off to him. Like, you know, no wonder he was resilient. Do we agree with him? There may be a case for it, but it's an extreme... A bit like, you know, an extreme version of stoicism, basically. Nevertheless... In relation to modern psychology, I think there's a lot we can take from it.
So there's a body of research that shows that people who suffer from clinical depression tend to have high levels of perceived injustice, right? And we also know that anger is linked to depression, and anger is also very directly linked to the perception of injustice, right? So how could our philosophy of justice affect emotions like anger and depression?
So there's a body of research that shows that people who suffer from clinical depression tend to have high levels of perceived injustice, right? And we also know that anger is linked to depression, and anger is also very directly linked to the perception of injustice, right? So how could our philosophy of justice affect emotions like anger and depression?
So there's a body of research that shows that people who suffer from clinical depression tend to have high levels of perceived injustice, right? And we also know that anger is linked to depression, and anger is also very directly linked to the perception of injustice, right? So how could our philosophy of justice affect emotions like anger and depression?
Well, if we agreed with Socrates, right, that our own injustice does us more harm than the injustice of others, then maybe we wouldn't become as depressed when we perceive injustice in the world around us. We might still object to that. We might still defy it. but we might respond to it differently emotionally.
Well, if we agreed with Socrates, right, that our own injustice does us more harm than the injustice of others, then maybe we wouldn't become as depressed when we perceive injustice in the world around us. We might still object to that. We might still defy it. but we might respond to it differently emotionally.