Donald Wine

That's what other teams are starting to kind of figure out, knowing that they can, in the second half at least, get by Duke.

maybe with a little bit extra physicality, get away with some stuff that helps disrupt us.

And so we need to be able to figure out how to play through that.

You mean he retired mid season?

Anyway, I just real quick, I've said on this podcast about the

the interactions I had with Teddy when I was a student.

That's how long he's been refereeing games.

I would just say the utmost respect, like mutual respect.

I can hate him respectfully.

And when I rag on him and the times that we shared at basketball games, him explaining the call that I didn't like, knowing that I wasn't going to like the answer that he was giving me.

I mean, not a lot of referees do that.

And so, yes, he's TV Teddy for a reason, but...

But yeah, he's one of the legends of this game and in his own right.

So salute, salute to him.

You know, I was going back and forth between a couple plays, but I think this play really ended the game.

It was about 4.53 left in the game.

Caden Boozer drives towards the right end of the floor and then is able to find Cam in the middle.

Cam is probably about 10 feet away from the basket, and he does some acrobatic left-handed shot, gets the contact, gets the foul call, and it was like the second foul that Pitt had, I think, in that half.

He made the free throw and made the lead 12.

And Pitt didn't really, you know, mount much of a challenge after that.