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Doug Burgum

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641 total appearances

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And then the other piece, which you love about having the small market for nuclear is we can spend money on power generation as opposed to money on transmission. Because transmission...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And then the other piece, which you love about having the small market for nuclear is we can spend money on power generation as opposed to money on transmission. Because transmission...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

It's also it's really hard to build a transmission line in this country because whether it's a linear infrastructure, which includes natural gas pipelines, CO2 pipelines, oil and gas pipelines or transmission lines, those have become the focal point for protests. Because if they have any nexus, an 1100 mile long pipeline could have one mile that touches federal ground.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

It's also it's really hard to build a transmission line in this country because whether it's a linear infrastructure, which includes natural gas pipelines, CO2 pipelines, oil and gas pipelines or transmission lines, those have become the focal point for protests. Because if they have any nexus, an 1100 mile long pipeline could have one mile that touches federal ground.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

That is where the protest is going to occur.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

That is where the protest is going to occur.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I've got a great partner, Chris Wright, incredibly talented, arguably the most qualified secretary of energy we've ever had leading that effort because the Department of Energy has got most of the responsibility related to nuclear because they also are in charge of our nuclear stockpile. I mean, for the military, I mean, DOE has got direct defense responsibilities. And as part of that,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I've got a great partner, Chris Wright, incredibly talented, arguably the most qualified secretary of energy we've ever had leading that effort because the Department of Energy has got most of the responsibility related to nuclear because they also are in charge of our nuclear stockpile. I mean, for the military, I mean, DOE has got direct defense responsibilities. And as part of that,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Uh, they, we've also got the 15 national labs and there's been great work that's happening in Los Alamos and Scandia. I mean, uh, you know, you go around the whole country and we've got an incredibly talented group of people and the research dollars have been flowing, but we've got to get some of that commercialized and out to the public.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Uh, they, we've also got the 15 national labs and there's been great work that's happening in Los Alamos and Scandia. I mean, uh, you know, you go around the whole country and we've got an incredibly talented group of people and the research dollars have been flowing, but we've got to get some of that commercialized and out to the public.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

So, but again, think of it literally as a Manhattan project. These were the, these were the places where we did the Manhattan project when you think of Los Alamos and others. So we've got to mobilize these government agencies to help us on the current the current crisis we're facing, which is this energy emergency.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

So, but again, think of it literally as a Manhattan project. These were the, these were the places where we did the Manhattan project when you think of Los Alamos and others. So we've got to mobilize these government agencies to help us on the current the current crisis we're facing, which is this energy emergency.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Yes, you should.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Yes, you should.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, the fun thing when we meet with all of these people in the nuclear industry, if you were doing this five years ago, you'd have been talking to regulated utilities. Today, you can talk to a venture-funded startup. And there's at least 10 that are out there today that are chasing new designs. There's people that are chasing not just fission, but fusion. And so all of that is exciting.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, the fun thing when we meet with all of these people in the nuclear industry, if you were doing this five years ago, you'd have been talking to regulated utilities. Today, you can talk to a venture-funded startup. And there's at least 10 that are out there today that are chasing new designs. There's people that are chasing not just fission, but fusion. And so all of that is exciting.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And if you think of us having an air base in Alaska, I mean, think of being able to daisy chain some SMRs there and not having to build transmission. I mean, the applications for the military purposes and for other. And then if you have distributed, it's harder for the enemy to knock out your power source because it's not all sitting in one spot.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And if you think of us having an air base in Alaska, I mean, think of being able to daisy chain some SMRs there and not having to build transmission. I mean, the applications for the military purposes and for other. And then if you have distributed, it's harder for the enemy to knock out your power source because it's not all sitting in one spot.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, I don't know if we've lost it or it's just the innumeracy of being selective about what industry or what form of transportation. Because on the automobile side, again, we'll track this year between 38,000 and 40,000 deaths on highways in America. Half of those are because of impaired driving, either from people texting or impaired drug or alcohol use.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, I don't know if we've lost it or it's just the innumeracy of being selective about what industry or what form of transportation. Because on the automobile side, again, we'll track this year between 38,000 and 40,000 deaths on highways in America. Half of those are because of impaired driving, either from people texting or impaired drug or alcohol use.