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Doug Burgum

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And apparently everybody's okay with that because we lose 100 people a day and there's never a story about it. I mean, more than 100 people a day. But, you know, if you lose 70, you lose 70 people in the first airline crash in 12 years in America. And we're still talking about it three months later because somehow that is news and people dying on highways is not.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And apparently everybody's okay with that because we lose 100 people a day and there's never a story about it. I mean, more than 100 people a day. But, you know, if you lose 70, you lose 70 people in the first airline crash in 12 years in America. And we're still talking about it three months later because somehow that is news and people dying on highways is not.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And in a nuclear, it's the same thing. I actually checked on this because, of course, we've had no deaths from anything related to nuclear power in our country since inception. But the best I can find on the federal safety statistics is there's about 37 people that have died from getting angry at vending machines and then pounding on them. And then they tip over and fall on them, literally.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And in a nuclear, it's the same thing. I actually checked on this because, of course, we've had no deaths from anything related to nuclear power in our country since inception. But the best I can find on the federal safety statistics is there's about 37 people that have died from getting angry at vending machines and then pounding on them. And then they tip over and fall on them, literally.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And they crush them. Where do you find that statistic? Yeah, you just go search online. But it's out there. But anyway, it's like if you're... if you're afraid of nuclear, you know, then I take a wide bird. If you see a vending machine, steer clear of it. And they're the same thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And they crush them. Where do you find that statistic? Yeah, you just go search online. But it's out there. But anyway, it's like if you're... if you're afraid of nuclear, you know, then I take a wide bird. If you see a vending machine, steer clear of it. And they're the same thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I mean, I, when I was, uh, when I was, you know, campaigning for president Trump and I said I was pro nuclear and someone said, well, would you know, Oh really? But would you live near one? Would you raise your family near one? And I said, well, I would. And they said, well, how can you say that? I said, well, I raised them on a farm in North Dakota and our farm was near a road.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I mean, I, when I was, uh, when I was, you know, campaigning for president Trump and I said I was pro nuclear and someone said, well, would you know, Oh really? But would you live near one? Would you raise your family near one? And I said, well, I would. And they said, well, how can you say that? I said, well, I raised them on a farm in North Dakota and our farm was near a road.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And they said, what do you mean a road? I said, well, there's It's more risky than a nuclear power plant. Yeah, it's way more. I said when the kids were out, if they were out going to a dance at high school on Friday night, I was worried about them not on the road, not about anything else.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And they said, what do you mean a road? I said, well, there's It's more risky than a nuclear power plant. Yeah, it's way more. I said when the kids were out, if they were out going to a dance at high school on Friday night, I was worried about them not on the road, not about anything else.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, first of all, I love, David, the way you're framing it. And I would just add, you know, the two trillion dollar deficit. means that in the last year of the Biden administration, $2,000 billion more was spent than came in. And coming in, we have other ways to bring money in other than taxes. And how is that possible? Well, it's because of America's balance sheet.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, first of all, I love, David, the way you're framing it. And I would just add, you know, the two trillion dollar deficit. means that in the last year of the Biden administration, $2,000 billion more was spent than came in. And coming in, we have other ways to bring money in other than taxes. And how is that possible? Well, it's because of America's balance sheet.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Our balance sheet isn't just the financial assets. It includes the fact that just within Interior alone, there's 500 million acres of surface land. Throw in U.S. Forest Service, add another 200 million acres.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Our balance sheet isn't just the financial assets. It includes the fact that just within Interior alone, there's 500 million acres of surface land. Throw in U.S. Forest Service, add another 200 million acres.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Yes. And then we have 700 million acres of subsurface, sometimes continuous and some discontinuous. But we own all these minerals that are underground. Then there's about between two and a half and three billion acres of offshore land. that contain critical minerals and oil and gas minerals. All of that is under the federal purview.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Yes. And then we have 700 million acres of subsurface, sometimes continuous and some discontinuous. But we own all these minerals that are underground. Then there's about between two and a half and three billion acres of offshore land. that contain critical minerals and oil and gas minerals. All of that is under the federal purview.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

If Interior was a standalone company, it would have the largest balance sheet in the world by so far. I mean, you know, Saudi Aramco wouldn't even come close. And then you'd say, okay, well, if you have this, we all know about the $38 trillion in debt. It gets, you know, hammered all the time. It's used in campaign things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

If Interior was a standalone company, it would have the largest balance sheet in the world by so far. I mean, you know, Saudi Aramco wouldn't even come close. And then you'd say, okay, well, if you have this, we all know about the $38 trillion in debt. It gets, you know, hammered all the time. It's used in campaign things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

But I was, you know, even at the Hill and Valley conference this week, I, without doubt,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

But I was, you know, even at the Hill and Valley conference this week, I, without doubt,