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Doug Burgum

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, now we're literally in a war around these critical minerals, which we need for defense, and we don't have a stockpile. So part of what we're concerned with right now and said, how do we get capital flowing back to mining? How do we start building stockpiles in America the way we have the Strategic Petroleum Reserve across the top 20 most important critical minerals?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And then how do we de-risk it if someone's going to get into mining? And do we need like a sovereign risk insurance but not because you're working overseas, because you're working here, because the next administration may use an EO to wipe out your mind.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And then how do we de-risk it if someone's going to get into mining? And do we need like a sovereign risk insurance but not because you're working overseas, because you're working here, because the next administration may use an EO to wipe out your mind.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And so, again, giving the capital providers the confidence that if somehow they're regulated out of business, they'll get compensated through an insurance program.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And so, again, giving the capital providers the confidence that if somehow they're regulated out of business, they'll get compensated through an insurance program.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, Lee Zeldin, our EPA administrator, is also a key part of the Energy Dominance Council, as is about half of the cabinet. I mean, we've got Howard Lutnick, Scott Besant, Brooke Rollins, you know, from AG with U.S. Forest Service. There's literally about half the cabinet. Transportation, Sean Duffy's on there.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Well, Lee Zeldin, our EPA administrator, is also a key part of the Energy Dominance Council, as is about half of the cabinet. I mean, we've got Howard Lutnick, Scott Besant, Brooke Rollins, you know, from AG with U.S. Forest Service. There's literally about half the cabinet. Transportation, Sean Duffy's on there.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Everybody's, you know, part of this team of trying to solve this larger, complex thing. But I would say that the one thing we forget about when we often there's these national discussions, which is that every state also has a regulatory environment. And in my time as governor, one thing I learned was that there was I never met a bureaucrat from D.C.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Everybody's, you know, part of this team of trying to solve this larger, complex thing. But I would say that the one thing we forget about when we often there's these national discussions, which is that every state also has a regulatory environment. And in my time as governor, one thing I learned was that there was I never met a bureaucrat from D.C.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

that cared more about the land, the water, the soil health or the air in our state than the people that live there and the people that work for our own D.E.Q. And so when people say, oh, you know, we're reducing headcount at the EPA, the world's going to fall apart. No, we have two issues with regulation. One is is the.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

that cared more about the land, the water, the soil health or the air in our state than the people that live there and the people that work for our own D.E.Q. And so when people say, oh, you know, we're reducing headcount at the EPA, the world's going to fall apart. No, we have two issues with regulation. One is is the.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

overreach, which is, you know, people going beyond the law on their original charter and regulating things, you know, regulate when they're supposed to be regulating water. And I need a water permit should be about turbidity and temperature. And is the fish in this area going to be affected as opposed to

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

overreach, which is, you know, people going beyond the law on their original charter and regulating things, you know, regulate when they're supposed to be regulating water. And I need a water permit should be about turbidity and temperature. And is the fish in this area going to be affected as opposed to

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Oh, we're not giving this permit because we're worried about climate change because the thing in your pipe is natural gas. I mean, that's a real example. That's how Cuomo knocked out a permit that was way beyond what the law said.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Oh, we're not giving this permit because we're worried about climate change because the thing in your pipe is natural gas. I mean, that's a real example. That's how Cuomo knocked out a permit that was way beyond what the law said.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I mean, if there was an issue with how the company was crossing a water course, like 38,000 other LNG crossings of water courses in America, if there's a real problem, then tell them that and they'll horizontally direct drill it 50 feet below the bottom of the river. It'll never touch the river and give them a permit.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I mean, if there was an issue with how the company was crossing a water course, like 38,000 other LNG crossings of water courses in America, if there's a real problem, then tell them that and they'll horizontally direct drill it 50 feet below the bottom of the river. It'll never touch the river and give them a permit.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Instead, they'd be like, no, you know, there's no permit because we're concerned about climate change. That's overreach. But the overlap that occurs every day is that the federal government infrastructure is overlapping with the states. And there isn't a need to do both of those things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Instead, they'd be like, no, you know, there's no permit because we're concerned about climate change. That's overreach. But the overlap that occurs every day is that the federal government infrastructure is overlapping with the states. And there isn't a need to do both of those things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And you might, you know, go a path for, you know, two years, three years and get your federal permit and then find out, oh, that a state like New York is not going to provide it. Or you might get a permit in six months in a state that's