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Doug Burgum

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
641 total appearances

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Everybody's, you know, part of this team of trying to solve this larger, complex thing. But I would say that the one thing we forget about when we often there's these national discussions, which is that every state also has a regulatory environment. And in my time as governor, one thing I learned was that there was I never met a bureaucrat from D.C.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Everybody's, you know, part of this team of trying to solve this larger, complex thing. But I would say that the one thing we forget about when we often there's these national discussions, which is that every state also has a regulatory environment. And in my time as governor, one thing I learned was that there was I never met a bureaucrat from D.C.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

that cared more about the land, the water, the soil health or the air in our state than the people that live there and the people that work for our own D.E.Q. And so when people say, oh, you know, we're reducing headcount at the EPA, the world's going to fall apart. No, we have two issues with regulation. One is is the.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

that cared more about the land, the water, the soil health or the air in our state than the people that live there and the people that work for our own D.E.Q. And so when people say, oh, you know, we're reducing headcount at the EPA, the world's going to fall apart. No, we have two issues with regulation. One is is the.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

overreach, which is, you know, people going beyond the law on their original charter and regulating things, you know, regulate when they're supposed to be regulating water. And I need a water permit should be about turbidity and temperature. And is the fish in this area going to be affected as opposed to

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

overreach, which is, you know, people going beyond the law on their original charter and regulating things, you know, regulate when they're supposed to be regulating water. And I need a water permit should be about turbidity and temperature. And is the fish in this area going to be affected as opposed to

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Oh, we're not giving this permit because we're worried about climate change because the thing in your pipe is natural gas. I mean, that's a real example. That's how Cuomo knocked out a permit that was way beyond what the law said.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Oh, we're not giving this permit because we're worried about climate change because the thing in your pipe is natural gas. I mean, that's a real example. That's how Cuomo knocked out a permit that was way beyond what the law said.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I mean, if there was an issue with how the company was crossing a water course, like 38,000 other LNG crossings of water courses in America, if there's a real problem, then tell them that and they'll horizontally direct drill it 50 feet below the bottom of the river. It'll never touch the river and give them a permit.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

I mean, if there was an issue with how the company was crossing a water course, like 38,000 other LNG crossings of water courses in America, if there's a real problem, then tell them that and they'll horizontally direct drill it 50 feet below the bottom of the river. It'll never touch the river and give them a permit.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Instead, they'd be like, no, you know, there's no permit because we're concerned about climate change. That's overreach. But the overlap that occurs every day is that the federal government infrastructure is overlapping with the states. And there isn't a need to do both of those things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

Instead, they'd be like, no, you know, there's no permit because we're concerned about climate change. That's overreach. But the overlap that occurs every day is that the federal government infrastructure is overlapping with the states. And there isn't a need to do both of those things.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And you might, you know, go a path for, you know, two years, three years and get your federal permit and then find out, oh, that a state like New York is not going to provide it. Or you might get a permit in six months in a state that's

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

And you might, you know, go a path for, you know, two years, three years and get your federal permit and then find out, oh, that a state like New York is not going to provide it. Or you might get a permit in six months in a state that's

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

that can efficiently do permitting and get all the work done and take care of everything, and then find out that the federal government's going to sit on it for an entire presidential term because they're ideologically opposed. When we do that to ourselves, then we have no chance against a country like China that is focused on on an outcome, which is they're going to achieve prosperity.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

that can efficiently do permitting and get all the work done and take care of everything, and then find out that the federal government's going to sit on it for an entire presidential term because they're ideologically opposed. When we do that to ourselves, then we have no chance against a country like China that is focused on on an outcome, which is they're going to achieve prosperity.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

They're going to achieve all of their environmental goals by having the power to have all the solutions as opposed to the environment we have now, which restricts that innovation.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

They're going to achieve all of their environmental goals by having the power to have all the solutions as opposed to the environment we have now, which restricts that innovation.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

are you glad you took the job what's been most surprising for you since you've been in the role well i'm i'm having a blast uh and i'm thrilled to be in this position where we can have an impact you know you get up every day and it's a little bit like the old uh you know world war ii You know, Marines in the Pacific would say, you know, we're in a foxhole. We're in a foxhole. We're on a beach.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior | All-In DC

are you glad you took the job what's been most surprising for you since you've been in the role well i'm i'm having a blast uh and i'm thrilled to be in this position where we can have an impact you know you get up every day and it's a little bit like the old uh you know world war ii You know, Marines in the Pacific would say, you know, we're in a foxhole. We're in a foxhole. We're on a beach.