Doug Burgum

The bad news is, you know, we're surrounded. The good news is we can attack in any direction. And so every day you can get up and go make a difference in people's lives. And for anybody that's in tech or anybody that's listening, you know, that poo-poos public service, they ought to really think about the fact.

The bad news is, you know, we're surrounded. The good news is we can attack in any direction. And so every day you can get up and go make a difference in people's lives. And for anybody that's in tech or anybody that's listening, you know, that poo-poos public service, they ought to really think about the fact.

I mean, we need people that are, as Teddy Roosevelt said, that are willing to get in the arena because in these jobs that are – really purposeful. You can make a difference for a lot of people.

I mean, we need people that are, as Teddy Roosevelt said, that are willing to get in the arena because in these jobs that are – really purposeful. You can make a difference for a lot of people.

But what's surprising about the job was I knew that from a tech standpoint, because I lived through it eight years in North Dakota, where state government wasn't up to speed on just basic technology and basic business systems and all the things that that, uh, that, that reduce productivity and create, uh, I'll say agony for state or federal employees.

But what's surprising about the job was I knew that from a tech standpoint, because I lived through it eight years in North Dakota, where state government wasn't up to speed on just basic technology and basic business systems and all the things that that, uh, that, that reduce productivity and create, uh, I'll say agony for state or federal employees.

I mean, we, we asked them to do mind numbing and soul sucking work for like 20% of their time, uh, because we haven't given them the basic tools that everybody in the private sector has had. And so it's not like that anybody's bad, bad people, but you could get rid of 20% of this of the quote work by just bringing in the tools that are there.

I mean, we, we asked them to do mind numbing and soul sucking work for like 20% of their time, uh, because we haven't given them the basic tools that everybody in the private sector has had. And so it's not like that anybody's bad, bad people, but you could get rid of 20% of this of the quote work by just bringing in the tools that are there.

I mean, you could have 20% less people and then the people would have a more meaningful, more purposeful job.

I mean, you could have 20% less people and then the people would have a more meaningful, more purposeful job.

Yeah, all of those things. And so what I thought was it can't be worse than it was in North Dakota. And then I got into the, at least in the Department of Interior and we are, we are further behind. I mean, we're going to, you know, this is a, the land of, you know, decommissioning mainframes and then we could just, you know, take them straight to the Smithsonian, to the 1980s exhibit.

Yeah, all of those things. And so what I thought was it can't be worse than it was in North Dakota. And then I got into the, at least in the Department of Interior and we are, we are further behind. I mean, we're going to, you know, this is a, the land of, you know, decommissioning mainframes and then we could just, you know, take them straight to the Smithsonian, to the 1980s exhibit.

And David, I want to return that. I want to thank you and all your compatriots at All In because you're really allowing an opportunity for America to have a dialogue that goes deeper than the soundbite. And I think that all of you may underestimate the impact that All In has had.

And David, I want to return that. I want to thank you and all your compatriots at All In because you're really allowing an opportunity for America to have a dialogue that goes deeper than the soundbite. And I think that all of you may underestimate the impact that All In has had.

I know that you're influencing policy, you're helping people understand the complexity and both the opportunities and the threats of big things that really matter to all Americans. And thank you for being so well informed. Thanks for coming all the way down here to Louisiana to share this beautiful day on the coast. Thanks, Doc. Thank you.

I know that you're influencing policy, you're helping people understand the complexity and both the opportunities and the threats of big things that really matter to all Americans. And thank you for being so well informed. Thanks for coming all the way down here to Louisiana to share this beautiful day on the coast. Thanks, Doc. Thank you.

Cabot, wonderful to be with you. Thanks, and so fun to be in studio here with you as well.

Cabot, wonderful to be with you. Thanks, and so fun to be in studio here with you as well.

Well, it's an incredible department because of the scope and the breadth that it has. It covers 14 time zones. One way to think about the Department of Interior is the Department of Everything. Or another way to think about it is really the heart of America's balance sheet. There's 500 million acres of land, 700 million acres of subsurface.

Well, it's an incredible department because of the scope and the breadth that it has. It covers 14 time zones. One way to think about the Department of Interior is the Department of Everything. Or another way to think about it is really the heart of America's balance sheet. There's 500 million acres of land, 700 million acres of subsurface.