Doug MacLean

I don't know.

But they think he's got a chance to be a real good backup.

What's Toronto pushing hard for?

Oh, I thought you were talking about a particular player.

Look, I look at teams, just an example, look what Washington have done this week.

I mean, so I'm looking at two right shots, join Washington in Cairo and talk and you're saying, okay, where does it, is this for Ovi or is this in case Ovi retires?

I think it's for Ovi to make the team more competitive that Patrick made these moves, which I really like.

They lose McMichaels, good young player in the deal.

Kairou has been a guy that's... There's been something about him that's bugged me.

I don't know.

Coaches haven't been in love with him.

Can he turn it around with a team like Washington?

They still have their first-round pick available because they used Anaheim's pick to make the deal.

So they still have their first-round pick.

I think Washington's a team that... I like Carberry.

He's got a new deal in place.

I think he's going to come back and...

think they're going to bounce back as a good team at columbus right now donnie woodell's going to figure something out um hellebuck out there is buffalo get hellebuck is there any way buffalo gets hellebuck yeah certainly i think i think that's a real possibility florida yeah talking but what if buffalo get hellebuck what happens to that team

And they trade for the Russian from Colorado, who's one step away from being out of the league.

Bart, you know?