Doug MacLean

And Pierre and I made a deal, a second round pick for Marc Denis.

And Marc Denis at that time was a highly thought of prospect, first round pick.

And Pierre said to me on the phone,

If this trade gets out, because we were two weeks before the draft and before the expansion draft, and Pierre said to me, if this gets out in the media, the trade is cancelled, and I will know for a fact it came from your organization, because I can guarantee it would never come from mine.

And it was a great lesson for me as a GM that nothing gets out unless we want it out.

And there's our organizations are loose and there's a lot that are really tight.

And right now, Toronto's loose.

There's too much getting out.

He also told me to hire Joel Quenville, and I didn't listen to him.

I looked at...

Mr. Bourne's list.

I call him Mr. Bourne because I always get confused whether it's Justin or Jason.

I looked at his list of picks and I thought, I'm not watching enough hockey because we were 100% opposite on our picks.

Well, you know what?

The guys at Sportsnet used to really piss me off because they were wimps.

I'm not putting picks.

Elliot would never make a pick.

Okay, first of all... You've got to force these guys to make picks.

They chirp all year.

Make them make picks.