Doug MacLean

But I think typically it's a pretty thorough search.

There's no doubt that...

The league are involved in making recommendations because owners ask them.

And we've talked about that before.

And there's no doubt in my mind that Gary Bettman and Bill Daly are involved and they're contacted by owners for their advice.

And I understand why that happens.

So there's a lot goes into making this hire.

And I suspect Keith will be really thorough in both hires.

if he's involved in the GM after he hires his president or whatever he hires first.

Have you filled the... I just don't get all this information getting out.

I'm sorry.

That goes back to what Keith talked about in his press conference.

You couldn't get a golf shirt from his organization unless Lou.

He's a little bit like Dundon.

He signed off on golf shirts, the same as Dundon signs off and everything.

So, no, you know what?

It's Lou.

Look, it's it's really interesting.

I told you this story, I'm sure, before I was making a trade with Pierre Lacroix.

And it was before the expansion draft and before the amateur draft.