Dove Cameron

And I knew that, but he was never...

Like I, the thing was I had gone back to see him after I had lived in LA for a year and I stayed like at our home for the summer and at our family home.

And I remember him doing everything he could to get me to not stay with him.

Like he would send me to stay with my friends and I, I actually probably didn't want you to see him how he was existing.

Yeah.

And I remember like, he was like a famously like tight walleted man.

And I was like,

That's so bizarre.

And I didn't really realize that he had already sort of put a plan in place where it was like... He didn't need it anymore.

No, he got rid of all of the animals.

He was getting rid of all of his money.

I still go back and forth on that because I found out later that he was paying, like, my friend's mom to, like, get me groceries and, like, basically was just, like, pawning me off on another family.

Not because it's hard, honestly, because I do talk about it.

Yeah.

But I talk about it with this kind of like, here are the facts.

Yeah, you can disassociate a little bit.

I think also like I think also some it's it's really hard to a lot of the time, like trauma is very sensationalized.

I'm sure, you know.

I've become very protective of that over the years because I used to be much more open about speaking about it.

I had a friend who died very publicly in the last few years, and that was when I sort of.