Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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From episode 861, Nikki Glaser. Well, last night I was at the Grammys and my boyfriend, I'm just trying to be very small. Like, I feel like I don't belong there. I don't want people even noticing me to go like, why is she here? Even though I was nominated for a Grammy. But like, I didn't win. I was so mad I didn't win. only because I wanted to bring my Grammy to hold it, to be like, I belong.
I just wanted to have a reason to be there. So I was being very small. And then people were coming up to me being like, oh my God, people I'm fans of. And my boyfriend had to talk with me after we were just kind of doing a debrief afterwards. He was like, I think you have to remember that you need to go up to people next time.
Like, you going up to someone will be the same gift as Olivia Rodrigo coming up to you. Like, because that was, like, the biggest gift of my life was someone I admire so much coming up to me to say she was a fan. He was like, but you could go give that to people. And I was like, I don't think of anyone thinking that they would want that from me.
Did you talk to Taylor?
I didn't. That's when, you know, like, Taylor, she's just... Everyone wants a piece. That one I'm just like, I will never be the one to be like, excuse me ever. It's almost rude what I do when I'm in the same room as Taylor Swift because I won't even look her way. She's like tapping you on the shoulder and you're just like.
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Chapter 2: What risks does Nikki Glaser discuss about roasting?
It will take that because I just will never. And everyone goes, go up and say something to her. There's no way that she's dying for that in a night like this where everyone's doing it. And of course she would be so nice. I know exactly how it would go down. But I just, I don't want to take someone's energy. a way that I require their energy to be put into making great music.
That's why I don't want her to make a less great song because she had to be like, nice to meet you. Oh, and like hold me as I'm crying.
Give you the full Swifty treatment.
Something tells me I can't bother her. She has room for both. I generally, after award shows, get pretty depressed no matter what happens because I'm around all these famous people that I put on a pedestal and I kind of see... the facade of it all and like the desperation and like, oh, everyone's the same. Everyone has they're all wearing uncomfortable clothes and have the fake hair in.
And I'm like, we're all clamoring to be noticed and a little bit disappointed when we're not. And it just it makes me a little bit sad because I'm like, no matter how big you get, you kind of worry about who's in the room, who's looking at you, where you're seated. I kind of go through a depression afterwards. It's seen the magic trick a bit. You realize, oh, there isn't any pixie dust.
There is pixie dust. Like there's magical moments where you're like, wow, that person's so talented. They're so amazing. They're like, you know, you know, just even watching Chapel Roan last night, Sabrina Carpenter, Ray, who I've never had never heard of. Yeah. Watching her was just transcendent. Definitely musicians when they're doing their thing.
And if you were watching the people in the room act, perhaps. Yes. But you're just seeing them not lit and not in a riveting drama. Yes. And they're just people.
The reason I brought up the thing is because I wanted to do a full circle, which is, and this is important to say, because I was like a little annoyed and I was upset on your behalf and upset on my behalf because I was like, oh, this is going to be a problem for me. So Kristen is hosting the SAG Awards. Okay. Oh, my God. Really? Yes. And she hosted them in 2018.
And that's when I was her producing partner and creative partner. And so I wrote her monologue and I did all that stuff for her then. And so she asked me to do that this time. So I went back to look at that original monologue. I kid you not.
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Chapter 3: How does Adam Scott process grief while working?
But of course, when I was like 14 or something, I was like, what the fuck? So I really didn't know what to think of it. Like he, the last thing he texted me was like, I love you, Chloe. And then it was like, we got a call the next day. And it was like, Yeah, it's really crazy. I honestly don't like talk about it too much. Yeah, understandable.
Not because it's hard, honestly, because I do talk about it. Yeah. But I talk about it with this kind of like, here are the facts. Yeah, you can disassociate a little bit.
Yeah, so I went into therapy for the very first time like three years ago or two, whatever it was.
Oh, really?
Chapter 4: What faux pas does Brad Pitt admit to during filming?
Wow.
Yeah, weirdly since I was in recovery for so long and I was like, well, I'm getting everything I need from there, but whatever I did. And yeah, I can tell you my story.
Chapter 5: What themes does Mindy Kaling explore in her writing?
I can tell anyone my story.
Yeah.
And it is, it's a list. It's a timeline.
Yeah.
It's like, then this happened, then this happened. And then in that therapy session, as I was talking to him for the very first time, the emotions were attached to the timeline. Yeah. And they just are not generally for me. Yeah. So I can relate to like these moments where like, Oh, OK. The emotions are here now with the story. Yeah. Yeah.
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Chapter 6: What insights does Jennifer Aniston share about motherhood?
I think also like I think also some it's it's really hard to a lot of the time, like trauma is very sensationalized. I'm sure, you know.
Yeah.
I've become very protective of that over the years because I used to be much more open about speaking about it. I had a friend who died very publicly in the last few years, and that was when I sort of. tried to reorient a little bit my autonomy over what spaces I share that much.
Well, my therapist said to me, he's like, you know, some stuff you can keep for yourself, not because you're hiding it out of shame, but just it's yours to keep and you should keep it for yourself. Like also having it for you in a weird way, which was a new concept for me.
Yeah, it's sort of the opposite of what we were talking about earlier, which I was actually going to say that, like, I think it's actually okay, not out of shame, but when we were saying like sharing is important and of course it is, but it's okay to have things that are just yours. Yeah. And it doesn't mean like it's your secret. It's just like it's yours and you can protect your life.
It's just like sliding that line back and forth. And it's like, yeah, I felt comfortable with it here.
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Chapter 7: How did Dominic Fike release his mixtape from jail?
And now I feel more comfortable with it here. And it'll probably change again. And it's fine. There's not a right or wrong. It's just like, yeah, am I betraying myself? Do I regret it later? Right. You did make me cry today, though, because I was seeing the tattoo that you got. And I have little girls and I say that same thing to them all the time.
Really? Oh my God, you're going to make me cry.
That's so horrible. And I was like, oh my God, I can't. Yeah, if they had to tattoo that on them at some point, because something went sideways, it was just heartbreaking. What is it? What is the tattoo, if you don't mind sharing? It says, we'll be friends forever. Hmm. Which is just like the sweetest. Oh, my God.
I say to him like almost every day on the way to school, I'm like, you know, we're going to be best friends for the rest of my life.
Yeah.
Yeah. Unless I get a procedure, hopefully. I live for 180.
Yeah, you gotta work on that.
Maybe I can do it with him the whole time. You gotta work on that. Yeah, I'm like, we're fucking best friends from this day to the end.
Well, and that's what it should be, right?
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Chapter 8: What challenges did Dove Cameron face in her relationship with her dad?
And I booked that baby. Wow. I remember thinking, because again, I didn't have representation out here. I'd never been on audition. I'd never auditioned in Sweden for anything. I was just like, oh, I guess this is how Hollywood works. You walk into a room and Ben Stiller is sitting there and then you're like, all right, let's go to New York.
And then, you know, listen to a little wham and drive down and have a gasoline fight. Wow. So then I went back to Stockholm and my dad's manager was like, All right. That went all right.
Yeah.
If you want to. We could build on that. Yeah. You should come back when, you know, you're done with your whatever you're doing out there and we'll send you out some stuff.
Serve all those coffees.
Yeah. Then I came out in, I think, 2003 maybe. Okay. Incredibly naive thinking like, all right. All right, Hollywood.
I finally decided. You're welcome, Hollywood. I'm here. Here I am.
I'll take it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You'll find me at Starbucks on Sunset Boulevard. Come get me, Spielberg. And he didn't. And no one else did either. Yeah. Because Zoolander's 2001. Yeah. And Generation Kill's 2008. We shot it in 2007. Okay. Yeah. It came out in 2008.
So were you here the majority of those six years? Yes, sir. Yes. Okay. This is what I want to live in because, again, I did that.
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