Dr. Abraham Morgentaler
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It turns out, and we call that vasomotor instability, like the blood vessels and whatever is sensing it centrally in the brain goes crazy, right? But it turns out that if you let a guy's testosterone get back to about 100, which is an extremely low number, it's gone. Very low. No more vasomotor instability. So whatever that is, that saturation point is probably around 100. Prostate's around 250.
It turns out, and we call that vasomotor instability, like the blood vessels and whatever is sensing it centrally in the brain goes crazy, right? But it turns out that if you let a guy's testosterone get back to about 100, which is an extremely low number, it's gone. Very low. No more vasomotor instability. So whatever that is, that saturation point is probably around 100. Prostate's around 250.
But a lot of guys at 250 still have symptoms from testosterone deficiency, like low libido. And some of that probably gets satisfied at numbers around 500, maybe 600, depending on who the guy is. That's saturation for that symptom in the brain.
But a lot of guys at 250 still have symptoms from testosterone deficiency, like low libido. And some of that probably gets satisfied at numbers around 500, maybe 600, depending on who the guy is. That's saturation for that symptom in the brain.
Yeah. Listen, my lizard stuff. Testosterone is a brain hormone. Yes, it also works on muscle and fat and all these other organs, but it's a brain hormone. Absolutely. So one thing that's interesting is that is so the question comes up. If somebody who doesn't have low testosterone takes testosterone, what's going to happen to them? Great question. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to take your time.
Yeah. Listen, my lizard stuff. Testosterone is a brain hormone. Yes, it also works on muscle and fat and all these other organs, but it's a brain hormone. Absolutely. So one thing that's interesting is that is so the question comes up. If somebody who doesn't have low testosterone takes testosterone, what's going to happen to them? Great question. Yeah. Sorry, I didn't mean to take your time.
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Right.
Right.
So what I mean by not low, in some ways, the easiest way to define it is it's certainly well within the normal range and that individual has no symptoms, right? They just say, I think I might be better in some way with testosterone. So if you have a guy with, let's look at sex drive, for example, a guy who's upper end of normal, we often define as around a thousand, okay?
So what I mean by not low, in some ways, the easiest way to define it is it's certainly well within the normal range and that individual has no symptoms, right? They just say, I think I might be better in some way with testosterone. So if you have a guy with, let's look at sex drive, for example, a guy who's upper end of normal, we often define as around a thousand, okay?
So if you have a guy who's 900 compared to another guy who's 700, Which they're both well within the normal range. They're going to have, on average, the same amount of libido. As a matter of fact, you can take the same guy. Let's say you could manipulate his hormones at 700 to 900. Nothing changes for him. Not erection, nothing. Because his testosterone is normal.
So if you have a guy who's 900 compared to another guy who's 700, Which they're both well within the normal range. They're going to have, on average, the same amount of libido. As a matter of fact, you can take the same guy. Let's say you could manipulate his hormones at 700 to 900. Nothing changes for him. Not erection, nothing. Because his testosterone is normal.
The one area that does not seem to max out is muscle. Is muscle. And that's why the bodybuilders, the athletes who are taking anabolic steroids that are all versions of testosterone-like compounds, versions of testosterone, why they can have muscles on top of muscles on top of muscles. Right?
The one area that does not seem to max out is muscle. Is muscle. And that's why the bodybuilders, the athletes who are taking anabolic steroids that are all versions of testosterone-like compounds, versions of testosterone, why they can have muscles on top of muscles on top of muscles. Right?
So anybody that's on normal amounts of testosterone therapy, just trying to get them maybe to the upper, into the normal range or the upper end, or even if they might slip a little bit above it here and there, it's not a problem. I've treated thousands and thousands of men. There's nobody who walked into my office looking like just regular muscular, who walked out like super built.
So anybody that's on normal amounts of testosterone therapy, just trying to get them maybe to the upper, into the normal range or the upper end, or even if they might slip a little bit above it here and there, it's not a problem. I've treated thousands and thousands of men. There's nobody who walked into my office looking like just regular muscular, who walked out like super built.
you need to get levels that are 10 to 50 times higher in terms of testosterone equivalents to start doing that.
you need to get levels that are 10 to 50 times higher in terms of testosterone equivalents to start doing that.