Dr. Alan O'Sullivan

Obviously, Jean-Paul was important there, but you seem to have a very deep interest in it.

And so far as you published your book, and we put information and notes about that as well.

But where did that come from?

It's really fascinating.

And listening to you, it's ego.

I think ego was the big thing there, like being able to be quiet, being able to listen, and also be able to admit, not defeat, but be able to walk back.

I think that's...

Just a couple of more questions to finish, Sebastian, if you don't mind.

The leadership side of things.

You're a very humble guy, right?

I know that because I've watched a lot of your previous interviews and repeatedly you tell a story about a bad review you got on Amazon and how it hurt you.

And I was intrigued by this.

Here is...

this super successful, you know, senior person leading a company with billions under management.

Yet a review on Amazon was very impactful, right?

But I think that speaks a lot to the type of leadership you have in terms of, I'm going to take that criticism and I'm going to channel it positively.

Is that a fair kind of...

That is just a great way to finish because that's a good example of channeling energy into a positive place.

And I think that's wonderful.

I also want to say that, you know, all the proceeds of the book are donated to charity as well, which is fantastic and well done on that.