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Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross

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651 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

We should be in the hundreds of trillions or higher of parameters right now.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

That hasn't happened.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

We've plateaued out in terms of the number of parameters and frontier models, and that's in part due to the reasoning model revolution and in part due to distillation, which go hand in hand.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

So those are some preliminary thoughts.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

I would suspect it's sort of interesting to me that he hasn't yet merged video generation with all of the other models.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Google DeepMind has made lots of noises about starting to merge video as a first class modality in with their multimodal reasoning models.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Again, don't have access to the ground truth for how capable Gemini general purpose models are at video generation.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

We've seen, obviously,

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Google's video generation models have been kept distinct from a user interface perspective, presumably they're diffusion transformer-based rather than transformer-based.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

We don't know.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Punchline, I would say that this seems like a healthful family for SpaceX AI, the newly emerged entity, to be offering, but there really aren't any big shockers in terms of

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

The range is other than maybe that they've abandoned the low end.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Google is very much tending to small parameter count, sub trillion in a few cases.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Google is releasing via the Gemma models, few billion parameter models.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Elon has completely abandoned the low end in favor of brute force scaling, which is exactly what I'd expect from him anyway.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Well, remember, the way reasoning models are trained these days is usually, at least according to my understanding from all of the other frontier labs, you train the largest model you possibly can, and then you distill it down to smaller models.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

So it's not as if necessarily the 10T model even needs to be released.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

It might be for the purpose of serving as a teacher model that can then be distilled down to more releasable models.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

It's a management style.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Elon Musk vs. Sam Altman, AI Job Loss, and OpenAI’s $852B Valuation | EP #247

Some would say management by crisis.