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Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross

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651 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

That's easier said than done.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Friends don't let friends start non-profits, I know.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I would say, taking the high road, I would say if that's your experience, you have almost an obligation to humanity to create benchmarks to encode this knowledge that you have that you think isn't being accurately or fully or effectively reflected right now in AIs.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

If you were to create a Cutler bench that encodes all of your wisdom, all of your writing knowledge.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

But it's not my wisdom.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It's just basic writing skills.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Let me take a quick poll here in the room.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

OK, that's fair.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Stephen, I would just, again, encourage you as a scientist, as you say, to be rigorous in how you measure progress or lack thereof.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

If you're going to assert that there's been a regression in terms of creative writing capabilities, for example, create your own benchmark and then show the world.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Show the world that there's been a regression, and I will promise you, if you construct it well, you will get the Frontier Labs interested in including your benchmark in every other eval suite.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

As an optimization function.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

That's right.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And you will get your better creative writing.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Saleem, do you want to have a final point here?

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I think this falls under the category of don't feed the trolls.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It's probably right.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I've done the same extrapolations others have.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

You extrapolate the humanoids curve here, you find that in the early 2030s, the number of humanoids is predicted to cross the number of wheeled robots.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I would assume there's relatively little alpha left at this point in