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Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross

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651 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Call it socialism with Chinese characteristics or communism with Chinese characteristics for how to handle AI disruption and AI Disemployment it would be an ironic, you know under I think this falls under the the category of we the most ironic outcomes ironic outcome tends to be that the one that we live in where China is setting global standards for how to deal with AI disruption for employment and

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It's a very strange future that we live in.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I don't buy the premise that China, through internal policies, is somehow hamstringing themselves in a race for AI supremacy against the U.S.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Parenthetically, the race to AI supremacy, I think, is perfectly real.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It's not fictitious.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It is a real arms race.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And it's a real arms race, not just for AI itself, but for what comes after AI.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

When we have superintelligence, that's going to unlock so many, I think, transformative scientific innovations and discoveries and inventions.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And that's really what the prize is.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Yeah, we haven't seen anything yet.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

That's right.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

If there's new physics, for example, I have financial interest in a company, physical superintelligence, that's working on superintelligence for unlocking new physics and new applied physics.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

That alone is a prize worth an international arms race over.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And I just to the the claim or the assertion that somehow China, by introducing policies that are notionally worker friendly in terms of AI substitution for labor, is somehow hand stringing themselves.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I think it's preposterous.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

There are a variety of other industrialized countries, including Germany, that have policies of favoring small and medium-sized businesses when it comes to automation.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I think China, if anything, this is a way from an internal policy perspective for China to ensure a certain level of human employment while also creating state incentives top-down for creating new types of jobs that are AI-adjacent.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I don't think they're tying themselves up at all.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

It's no different in some sense from our government constructing policies with the hyperscalers for requiring that hyperscalers power their or pay their own electricity supply bills.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

No different, except it's at the consumer level rather than at the enterprise hyperscaler level.