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Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross

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651 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Alex, take it away.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I chatted with Demis 10 plus years ago at this point.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And at the time, he thought it was five plus major breakthroughs that would be needed to achieve AGI.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Now we're down to zero or one.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And I don't disagree with Demis.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I've argued in the past that we achieved AGI in the summer of 2020, no later than with

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

the discovery of, or the publication rather, of large language models or few-shot learners, which was the GPT-3 paper, we know, I would argue, what AGI is, and we know how... Please define it for me.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

That's an insane statement.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I would make maybe even a slightly stronger statement, which is the notion that general intelligence is capable of carrying out a variety of human level or near human level tasks based on the fundamental discovery, again, discovered no later than summer of 2020, that you can achieve general intelligence by taking general human knowledge and compressing it.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

That was the fundamental discovery underneath large language models.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

We realized as a civilization, certainly no later than 2020, that you could carry out a diverse and general range of tasks with models that had compressed human knowledge.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

That's all that we needed.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

Everything else, the discovery of refinements of transformers and everything, it's just incremental improvements to that fundamental discovery.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I think there's a broader program here that we're just seeing the very beginning of.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

If you look back at the... There were strains, I've spoken about this on the pod in the past, of Russian cosmism.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

The Russian cosmist philosophers like Tsiolkovsky spoke about humanity's common task of taking...

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

every human who's ever lived and finding ways using technology to bring them back to life.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

And I think starting with extinct species is just a special case of what technology, I do think, will enable us to do, which is to reach back into our past light cone, take every species that's ever lived,

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

bring it back in whatever form, even if it's as a hybrid or as a computer simulation, and also reach back in time to our past light cone and take every human who's ever lived, not just at the species level, at the individual level, and computationally or using other advanced techniques, reconstruct them.

Moonshots with Peter Diamandis
Demis Hassabis on AGI, Robots Scale Production, and Elon’s $1T Mars-Shot Comp | EP #253

I think that's a far more exotic and interesting future than just Jurassic Park petting zoo for dinosaurs.