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Dr. Alok Kanojia

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Yeah. So I think there's two kinds of worry. There's worry that you're afraid that things will go bad. And then there is the anticipation of future effort. So you kind of know that you'll be OK, but your mind already knows that tomorrow is going to be heavy lip for me. It's going to be challenging for me. There's going to be some amount of suffering that goes into it.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

We're anticipating our future subjective experience of difficulty as we solve our problems. And a lot of people think that I won't be anxious unless I'm worried about the outcome. No, you can absolutely be anxious about how much it's going to suck for you to have to deal with that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

We're anticipating our future subjective experience of difficulty as we solve our problems. And a lot of people think that I won't be anxious unless I'm worried about the outcome. No, you can absolutely be anxious about how much it's going to suck for you to have to deal with that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

We're anticipating our future subjective experience of difficulty as we solve our problems. And a lot of people think that I won't be anxious unless I'm worried about the outcome. No, you can absolutely be anxious about how much it's going to suck for you to have to deal with that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Yeah, that's interesting. So do you have a sense of what changed for you over the course of those three years? Why don't you dread it anymore?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Yeah, that's interesting. So do you have a sense of what changed for you over the course of those three years? Why don't you dread it anymore?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Yeah, that's interesting. So do you have a sense of what changed for you over the course of those three years? Why don't you dread it anymore?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

I think a lot of it is the way that we experience progress. And a lot of times our society focuses on outcomes. Right. So the value of studying for a test is getting an A. But that creates a very serious problem. Because if you work hard and you get a B, now your brain is making a calculation that says all of this effort wasn't worth it. And it actually decreases your motivation.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

I think a lot of it is the way that we experience progress. And a lot of times our society focuses on outcomes. Right. So the value of studying for a test is getting an A. But that creates a very serious problem. Because if you work hard and you get a B, now your brain is making a calculation that says all of this effort wasn't worth it. And it actually decreases your motivation.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

I think a lot of it is the way that we experience progress. And a lot of times our society focuses on outcomes. Right. So the value of studying for a test is getting an A. But that creates a very serious problem. Because if you work hard and you get a B, now your brain is making a calculation that says all of this effort wasn't worth it. And it actually decreases your motivation.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

So if you fall short of your target, you'll actually decrease your motivation. So what you need to do in that moment is study harder. But instead, neurologically, what will happen is your brain will be like, this wasn't worth it. We put in all of this effort and we did not achieve what we wanted.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

So if you fall short of your target, you'll actually decrease your motivation. So what you need to do in that moment is study harder. But instead, neurologically, what will happen is your brain will be like, this wasn't worth it. We put in all of this effort and we did not achieve what we wanted.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

So if you fall short of your target, you'll actually decrease your motivation. So what you need to do in that moment is study harder. But instead, neurologically, what will happen is your brain will be like, this wasn't worth it. We put in all of this effort and we did not achieve what we wanted.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Instead, what we really need to do is calibrate towards feeling good about what we do, not what our outcomes are. And so with the working out, it's interesting because you mentioned these other advantages, like you notice all these changes to your weight and stuff, but I would bet money that somewhere in there, you started focusing on being glad you worked out that day.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Instead, what we really need to do is calibrate towards feeling good about what we do, not what our outcomes are. And so with the working out, it's interesting because you mentioned these other advantages, like you notice all these changes to your weight and stuff, but I would bet money that somewhere in there, you started focusing on being glad you worked out that day.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Instead, what we really need to do is calibrate towards feeling good about what we do, not what our outcomes are. And so with the working out, it's interesting because you mentioned these other advantages, like you notice all these changes to your weight and stuff, but I would bet money that somewhere in there, you started focusing on being glad you worked out that day.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Yeah, so I think probably part of it is that there is that noticeable difference. The challenge is that with the emails, you can feel accomplished after 150, but there's no sense of like progress tomorrow because the emails are just back. So it's way harder to get progress. So oftentimes what we'll try to do is help people link the emails to something that is noticeable.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Yeah, so I think probably part of it is that there is that noticeable difference. The challenge is that with the emails, you can feel accomplished after 150, but there's no sense of like progress tomorrow because the emails are just back. So it's way harder to get progress. So oftentimes what we'll try to do is help people link the emails to something that is noticeable.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

Yeah, so I think probably part of it is that there is that noticeable difference. The challenge is that with the emails, you can feel accomplished after 150, but there's no sense of like progress tomorrow because the emails are just back. So it's way harder to get progress. So oftentimes what we'll try to do is help people link the emails to something that is noticeable.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1114: Dr. Alok Kanojia | Breaking the Cycle of Digital Dependence

If I go through these 150 emails, what has come out of that? And that's the value.