Dr. Andy Galpin

Let's not add to that bucket, but like a normal exercise session.

Yeah.

Hop in a sauna, jacuzzi afterwards.

Like we're all, we're all game for it.

Totally here.

So here's how we will frame it.

It's not a substitute for exercise, of course, but it's better than sitting on a couch.

for most things.

So training is first.

If on top of past that, or we have an injury or fill in the blank there, then we can use sauna to keep maintenance, to keep pace, to keep some cardiovascular adaptation going.

So if we're pulling training down, like oftentimes we actually have to pull high intensity exercise down for people.

If you're dosing high-intensity stuff, like truly high-intensity endurance work too often, that can put people in really bad spots.

So what we can do sometimes is pull them off of that and insert sauna, and they still can kind of feel like a little bit of, I worked really hard.

And some people need that, not for physical reasons, but for other rationale.

So we use it in those particular cases.

Or we're deloading.

Or we're doing any number of other things where we can't get as much exercise as we want, or we're bringing it down.

So we use it in that particular context.

If we then take it into an individual athlete and we're trying to use it for specifically performance benefits gains, I would only be okay doing that if training volume is pretty low.

Because anything that takes away from training in an athlete, there has to be a really big payout because specificity wins.