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Dr. Anna Lembke

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1384 total appearances

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

But built into the algorithm is this novelty or this mystery where we are intentionally fed the occasional video that's not something that we've watched before, right?

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

But that's something that, oh, I never thought I would be interested in X. We are wired for uncertainty.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

We're wired for friction and for challenge, again, because that is what has kept us alive in a world of uncertainty.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

We live in a world of certainty that in many ways is incredibly boring because there aren't these challenges for us to resolve beyond what we make up for ourselves.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

That's where this third piece comes in, where we crave that uncertainty because

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Again, there's enormous uncertainty still in our lives, but what we want is the controlled digital uncertainty where we have this very short perception action loop of resolving it, kind of the drugified uncertainty.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Can you talk a little bit about dopamine and ADHD?

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Yeah.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

So we do know that people with ADHD are at higher risk for developing addiction, and the mechanism is not well understood.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

But there are some interesting studies suggesting that people with ADHD might have baseline lower levels of dopamine transmission in the reward pathway.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Yeah, so these are brain imaging studies where you measure dopamine transmission in the nucleus accumbens in healthy control subjects.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

You compare that to people with ADHD and you find, lo and behold, in that reward pathway, people with ADHD appear to have lower baseline levels just at rest of dopamine transmission and even fewer postsynaptic dopamine receptors.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

which is, again, related to dopamine transmission.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Yeah, because remember, that's what we see in addiction.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

So the pathophysiology of addiction is this downregulation of dopamine transmission in the reward pathway.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

So folks with ADHD might at

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

baseline have some reward insensitivity, which might contribute to their impulsivity, their stimulus seeking, their vulnerability to overconsume, intoxicants, their vulnerability to addiction.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Oh, yeah.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

I absolutely love this.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

And this is why I think we're sisters from another mother, because that's essentially my drug of choice is attachment.