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Dr. Anna Lembke

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1384 total appearances

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

And this is, of course, you know, the sort of underpinning of exposure therapy that I think so many people are finding helpful.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

It messes up our motivation because we become narrowly focused on short-term rewards.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

And we lose the ability to see the longer-term rewards that require the upfront work that are actually better for our well-being over months to years.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Absolutely.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

And again, by changing our hedonic or joy set point, what it means is that we need bigger pleasures to feel any pleasure at all.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

And even the merest pain is incredibly painful.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

And we see this now in clinical care, where people talk about really quite ordinary things that they struggle to do, simply paying a bill,

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

or getting off the couch and going and meeting with people or doing the dishes.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Now, these are, you know, kind of everyday things that, you know, nobody really likes or generally we don't like, but they're even more painful than in prior generations.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Just add something in there.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

And key to this abstinence trial or this dopamine detox, and we're not actually abstaining from dopamine because we're not ingesting dopamine.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

It's something that gets triggered in our brains, but it's kind of a metaphor or a meme at this point.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

The key to it, though, is to abstain for long enough to allow those gremlins to hop off the pain side of the balance and for homeostasis to be restored.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Because if we don't abstain for long enough, what happens is we take our pleasure, our reward off of the pleasure side, the gremlins accumulate on the pain side, crash us down, and we are in withdrawal, right?

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

And in that state of withdrawal, we experience anxiety, irritability, insomnia, dysphoria, and also intense craving that feels like it will never get better.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

But what is so amazing is that once we get over the hump of sort of that acute withdrawal for most people, which is about 14 days,

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

We come out the other side.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

Well, that's for a hard drug.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

In fact, you know, studies looking at teenagers who get off of social media

The Mel Robbins Podcast
How to Get Motivated: #1 Dopamine Expert’s Protocol to Build Willpower & Get Things Done

find that they feel less depressed, less anxious, and less lonely, but only if they go for long enough, which is on average about three to four weeks of abstaining from social media.