Dr. Aseem Malhotra

100%.

And actually we published an editorial with two cardiologists I did in British Owned Sports Medicine in 2017, which was a very long title, but it got a lot of publicity and more than a million downloads, which was saturated fat does not clog the arteries.

coronary artery disease is a chronic inflammatory condition which can be effectively managed with lifestyle changes that was the title of this thing but it's all there people it's free access people look it up and read it but we talk that we've overdone the thing and it wasn't just dr mahotra his opinion being controversial the two my two co-authors were both editors of medical journals and cardiologists luis redberg editor of geometry medicine and pascal meyer editor of bmj why why is this not getting more play why why is still the dogma and the orthodoxy that

So let's go to the root cause of the problem.

Even in society today, what's, what's the big issue in health?

We have commercial distortions of the scientific evidence.

Who is behind that and who has more power and control over medical education, medical training, the media than ever before?

Big corporations, in this case, big pharma.

And the level of this control and power, Mark, has got to a level where it can be very easily and rationally, not in an inflammatory way or overplaying it as being tyrannical.

What also happens with these big corporations and the way they exert their power is that they want to avoid conflict, right?

They want to avoid the truth coming out.

So there's a debate and discussion because ultimately people like myself, like you, who are obsessed with the truth, who want to get it out to help patients, when we speak and act from a place of integrity and truth, it has a very powerful resonance with people.

And it can very quickly destroy all these other dogmas that people have created because of that power that the truth has.

They want that conflict to remain latent, to remain hidden.

So that, you know, Noam Chomsky says the general public doesn't know what's happening and they don't even know that they don't know.

That's right.

Right.

So a lot of these doctors, and I agree, are well-intentioned, but they don't, they're living, you know, in many ways, they're living, they're climbing up the wrong wall to success when it comes to helping patients.

Because it's the drug companies that are really calling the shots.

So we are under a situation of tyranny.