Dr. Aseem Malhotra

They're only interested in profit.

not looking after you.

So they will try and design the trials to maximize ultimately the sales of the drugs.

They have what we call a pre-randomization run-in phase where they get these volunteers who are interested in being in the trial.

And for six weeks, for example, one of the trials, the heart protection study, a third of the patients, thousands of patients were removed before the trial began.

because of so-called non-compliance.

In other words, they got side effects.

So imagine they take the people out with side effects at the beginning, and then they only start the trial once they've taken the people out with side effects to get them early on, and then report on them.

So that's probably one of the reasons they're massively underreported, the side effects.

I'm sorry, Mark, you know,

It's fraud.

I'm sorry, it's fraud.

And let me be definitive about how I describe that.

What's the definition of fraud?

Deliberate deception in order to make money.

I'm sorry, that's the way I interpret it.

This is fraud.

The system is fraudulent.

Yeah.

Well, the independent studies that have been done have shown very little benefit.