Dr. Aseem Malhotra

But yes, I think the root of it is flawed science, dogma, and money.

And then even if people know there's an issue, they're afraid to speak out because they're worried about their jobs.

But if we're all doing this collectively, it's going to be a complete, pardon my language, a shit show for healthcare.

And that's why we are where we are in America right now.

So it's time to, you know, I, you know, I think, um, I love this phrase.

I know this is not a political podcast and it shouldn't be, but you know, a good friend of mine and good friend of yours of Robert Kennedy Jr.

And I love the fact that he's come out with this, make America healthy again.

I think we should all get behind that.

Yeah.

And you can't.

Trump campaign, but.

But you can't make America healthy again until you remove commercial distortions of the scientific evidence.

And that, unless that is addressed head on, we're not going anywhere.

So mind blowing.

How can we, how can we trust that being independent with their information?

Come on.

But let's very quickly on that.

I love the fact you've brought up commercial determinants of health.

There's a definition in public health, because I talk about this as well.

So just so people understand what that means, strategies and approaches adopted by the private sector to promote products and choices that are detrimental to health.