Dr. Azadeh Khatibi
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128 appearances
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1 series
first heard Apr 2025
last heard Apr 2025
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Dr. Drew, I'm super excited to be here. I'm super honored. Thanks so much for having me. I used to listen to you as an adolescent every single night on Loveline. So it's like surreal and super cool.
Oh yeah, I'm a Valley girl. So I grew up here in LA girl.
We actually have something else in common too. We have something else in common is that you and I have both been on, 20 years apart, we've both been on Wheel of Fortune.
No, it's fine. You went for it. I love it. You went for it.
I went bankrupt once. It happens. It happens. This is life, the ups and downs of life. You just do your best.
I got some cash and a trip to Chicago. So even though I didn't win.
That's better.
Well, I mean, I got an MPH because I went to medical school and I realized, oh, I'm learning about individual health, but I really want to learn about, you know, just always been a very curious, knowledge-seeking person. So I said, okay, well, I want to learn about health from a public perspective. How do we actually shift change instead of dealing with a heart attack here?
How do we prevent heart attacks on a population scale? So that was interesting to me. I was also in a five-year program that only accepted 12 people a year at that point, the joint medical program between UC Berkeley, UCSF. And so I was like, okay, I'm here for five years. Might as well learn more. And so I got my MPH. I was also getting a master's at that time too.
So I got three degrees and had a baby in like six years. It was a lot.
I did it, and I'm so grateful now because of having that background of all those degrees really helped me analyze things, I think, in a way that maybe some of my peers didn't. As for why people are getting multiple degrees now, I kind of...
Part of me wishes for the good old Donna Reed days where you just got your MD and then you establish yourself in your practice and you became part of the community and you saw patients. But I think now people get their JDs, people get their MBAs. A lot of physicians get their MBAs because they saw the corporatization of medicine.
They wanted to understand it better and take leadership in those roles. For me, the MPH seemed like a natural thing to do. It's an intuitive thing. And I love knowledge, so it just made sense. And it was convenient to get to.
Yeah, I mean, I heard him on the Derate the Hate podcast with Wilk Wilkerson, who you've had on your show. He's a friend of mine and his interview of Francis Collins. Francis Collins was like, well, we were just so in the thick of it that we didn't have time to ask our physician colleagues on the outside what their perspectives were.
We just wanted to look at what was in front of us and take care of it. And he had time to make a mediocre song music video during COVID.
So I have not been teaching recently. You're participating in CME after medical school, so you're actively teaching because you're a doctor at that point. And then after I finished training my residency and fellowship as a retina physician, I was still teaching. And then with these new laws especially, it just keeps coming on the books. I just...
Yeah, and I think that part of it is this group think that happens. Everybody shows up at the meeting, probably in DC, and they were all like, there's the group dynamics that happen. Who's the leader? Who are the followers? All these things.
I would have loved to be a fly on that wall to find out how their neuropsychological profiles and personalities led them to become followers versus leaders and to be inhibited to point things out. Or there's also tribalism that happens, right? This tribalism of, okay, this part of the media is against us, so we must be right, right?
Because I don't agree with them on other stuff, so the conservatives are against me, and so I must, since I don't like conservative media, I must be on the right path. And there's also something I think deeper, too, in terms of reactivity. One of the things I've really worked on
on myself is like, in my mindfulness practice especially, is to reduce the reactivity and instead have a responsiveness and an open-mindedness about things, which I generally tend to be an open person.
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