Dr. Ben Bikman

Linoleic acid being converted to 4-HNE will inhibit the adipogenic hyperplastic signaling and only enable the hypertrophic signal of the fat cell.

Yeah, for sure it would be.

I don't know.

I can't quantify the dose.

But yeah, in general, my view, you and I were chatting earlier, linoleic acid is ubiquitous in nature.

You need it.

You need your cell membranes.

i'm i think it's very appropriate for you to say yeah but it also like it's in mother's milk for goodness sakes it's in every meat source you're and i'm a huge defender of meat i think meat is very healthy and yet you're going to have linoleic acid in it i would maybe counter or not counter by just stating that those also in nature when you have the omega-6 linoleic acid you often also have an omega-3 that comes with it that to me is key that if you're con and

Often it'll have some degree, even minuscule levels of vitamin E. Vitamin E will help that linoleic acid not go down the pathway of peroxidation.

It'll help it just go down the pathway of oxidation even.

Dr. Stephen Cunane, this incredible man, just a delightful individual, he's done a lot of work documenting the fact that linoleic acid

when it's allowed to just be burned for fuel, burns so high and so rapid that it allows the brain to create its own ketones.

He has a fascinating area of research on this.

So I've always tried to have a little bit of a nuanced view of linoleic acid in that it's everywhere.

But when we get it in nature, it'll come with an omega-3 and it'll come with some amount of often vitamin E, which will help prevent the linoleic acid from going down the pathway of becoming a villain, which it can.

Linoleic acid will undergo peroxidation very readily and become a very harmful series of metabolites that are harmful to cell membranes and mitochondrial membranes.

I do, yeah.

Right.

No, and I totally agree.

I would also just say I'm also not the person to tackle the seed oil topic.