Dr. Ben Bikman

But when I want to, as much as some people will be here saying, Ben, it's all seed oils.

I'll say, no, you got the seed oils covered.

I'm going to stay where I'm at because I'm so familiar with this.

Um, but glucose is a partner in crime.

I just sort of say, um, it's sort of who would be, who would be the partner.

So it's sort of Joker.

The main villain is the insulin.

And then the glucose would be like Harley Quinn, sort of Joker's right hand gal in this case to invoke a comic book reference, which I am delighted to do because of a misspent childhood.

So, um,

Insulin, I believe, matters most.

But glucose on its own is pathogenic.

But before I even defend glucose, I just want to say because so much of modern medicine is obsessed with glucose.

At a cost, as I articulated earlier, that obsession not only causes us to miss the metabolic problem as early as we could by focusing on insulin, but it also leads us to unhealthy interventions where you have a hyperglycemic, hyperinsulinemic type 2 diabetic and you're only caring about lowering the glucose.

and you do so by pushing the insulin higher, if the glucose were the main pathogenic signal, this should result in improved outcomes, and nothing gets better.

When you give a type 2 diabetic an insulin therapy, they get fatter and sicker and die faster, all while glucose looks good.

This is well documented.

Their risk of dying from heart disease triples.

Their risk of dying from cancer doubles when you give them insulin.

Well, that's different.

Yeah, because in a type 1 diabetic, there's no insulin.