Dr. Benjamin N. Breyer

I think if you're a resident and you're interested in recon and you don't have someone at your institution, I think there's two things that you should do.

One is talk to your program director, see if it's possible to do an elective with someone in the field, and then write them, reach out.

I think most institutions would be welcoming.

So if there's something logistically that's easier for you, pick a high volume place that's in your region and try to get some exposure.

And then the other thing is to try to do some research in the area.

So if you're anticipating wanting to do a fellowship,

I think that does make you a little more of a competitive applicant if you've shown some interest in reconstructive urology and you do some things.

I mean, you were an incredibly competitive fellow and you had done at Vanderbilt a bunch of

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, you know, you were the bell of the ball and I think it helps.

So if you're a resident, you don't have that kind of person at your program to teach you or train you.

Don't see that as a, a total kind of, you can't get in.

You just need to do a little extra leg work to get to have those opportunities.

outside of just increasing the number of fellows if we could talk about ways to improve access for urethra reconstruction patients i thought was interesting i mean for us telehealth is amazing and you know people can get second opinions people can get their case reviewed but many don't have the resources to sort of get on a plane and get to columbus ohio or come to san francisco

So how do those people get treated?

I mean, I really do think there has been an explosion.

If you can imagine when Dr. Wessels did his fellowship, how many reconstructive urologists there were kind of doing these things.

So I do think over the last 20, 30 years, there's been a vanguard of folks that are interested in this work who are committed to these patients in this disease state.

That's had a huge impact.