Dr. Bethany Marshall

And that's what I'm really, really so curious about.

And none of that has come out so far.

I'm going to use a clinical term.

They're dissociated.

We dissociate when reality is unbearable.

This is unbearable.

Their dear mother is gone.

There is blood on the front doorstep.

They can't even contemplate.

Nancy, you've talked about your mother.

If something happened to her, you would panic, but then you would become numb too because the possibilities are so overwhelming.

They don't know if their mother is being tormented.

If she's alive, if she's dead, they can't even feel her through, Nancy.

That's what we're seeing.

You know, Nancy, if you really want to get money for kidnapping, you want a ransom, right?

You want to keep the kidnapped person alive, right?

But I think that in a case like this with an elderly person, I don't know that they're thinking that far ahead.

I mean, there's some kind of desperation that drives a move like this.

I'm thinking about the motivations for a kidnap.

You want money, right?