Dr. Brian Keating

And to me, that's why, look, I struggle with God. That's the name of your book, right? Israel. Israel means wrestle with God. It's not Islam. Islam means submit to God. When you submit to God— That's a different vision, man. It's a very different vision, and we can debate about it. But the fact is, when you submit, it's like I've often noted with my children, the first word they said was no.

Because if you say yes, you're just agreeing with somebody else's, whatever. Whatever they propose to you, you want to eat this? Yes, I want to eat this. You have no self-identification. I mean, you know, this is a trivial one-on-one for you. But that is true. So you express your individuality.

Because if you say yes, you're just agreeing with somebody else's, whatever. Whatever they propose to you, you want to eat this? Yes, I want to eat this. You have no self-identification. I mean, you know, this is a trivial one-on-one for you. But that is true. So you express your individuality.

Because if you say yes, you're just agreeing with somebody else's, whatever. Whatever they propose to you, you want to eat this? Yes, I want to eat this. You have no self-identification. I mean, you know, this is a trivial one-on-one for you. But that is true. So you express your individuality.

Absolutely. Yeah, no, and so all these things are self-evident. And the thing in Judaism where I feel is sort of denied to people that just refute. Look, I say, as I said, I don't believe in the God that Richard Dawkins doesn't believe in. It's trivial. Yuri Gagarin, when he circled the earth the first time, the communist, you know, Pravda, the truth, right?

Absolutely. Yeah, no, and so all these things are self-evident. And the thing in Judaism where I feel is sort of denied to people that just refute. Look, I say, as I said, I don't believe in the God that Richard Dawkins doesn't believe in. It's trivial. Yuri Gagarin, when he circled the earth the first time, the communist, you know, Pravda, the truth, right?

Absolutely. Yeah, no, and so all these things are self-evident. And the thing in Judaism where I feel is sort of denied to people that just refute. Look, I say, as I said, I don't believe in the God that Richard Dawkins doesn't believe in. It's trivial. Yuri Gagarin, when he circled the earth the first time, the communist, you know, Pravda, the truth, right?

They asked him, what did you see up there? He said, I can't tell you what I saw, but I know what I didn't see. And they go, what? I didn't see a man with a white beard sitting on a chair. You know, congratulations, Yuri. That's really, you know, he's a hero of the Soviet Union.

They asked him, what did you see up there? He said, I can't tell you what I saw, but I know what I didn't see. And they go, what? I didn't see a man with a white beard sitting on a chair. You know, congratulations, Yuri. That's really, you know, he's a hero of the Soviet Union.

They asked him, what did you see up there? He said, I can't tell you what I saw, but I know what I didn't see. And they go, what? I didn't see a man with a white beard sitting on a chair. You know, congratulations, Yuri. That's really, you know, he's a hero of the Soviet Union.

That's so baby. Nobody thinks of that. Where's up? There's no up in space. There's no heaven.

That's so baby. Nobody thinks of that. Where's up? There's no up in space. There's no heaven.

That's so baby. Nobody thinks of that. Where's up? There's no up in space. There's no heaven.

I said, you know, or, you know, Stephen Bartlett asked me, he said, you know, the Bible says the earth is flat. First of all, it doesn't say that, but second of all, you know, I said— But it's locally flat. It is definitely flat. And I won't say this. I said, you know, look, Stephen, I could say this to Sam or Richard Dawkins. You know, I say the Earth is flat. Prove me wrong.

I said, you know, or, you know, Stephen Bartlett asked me, he said, you know, the Bible says the earth is flat. First of all, it doesn't say that, but second of all, you know, I said— But it's locally flat. It is definitely flat. And I won't say this. I said, you know, look, Stephen, I could say this to Sam or Richard Dawkins. You know, I say the Earth is flat. Prove me wrong.

I said, you know, or, you know, Stephen Bartlett asked me, he said, you know, the Bible says the earth is flat. First of all, it doesn't say that, but second of all, you know, I said— But it's locally flat. It is definitely flat. And I won't say this. I said, you know, look, Stephen, I could say this to Sam or Richard Dawkins. You know, I say the Earth is flat. Prove me wrong.

One in a thousand people, ordinary people, will get that right. About 50, 60 percent of scientists will get that right. If I say prove that the Earth orbits around the sun— 90% of scientists will get that wrong. I bet most scientists watching this, I'm not going to put anybody on the spot. Including me. Yeah, I'm not going to say, stand on one leg and prove it, Jordan. But we can prove it.

One in a thousand people, ordinary people, will get that right. About 50, 60 percent of scientists will get that right. If I say prove that the Earth orbits around the sun— 90% of scientists will get that wrong. I bet most scientists watching this, I'm not going to put anybody on the spot. Including me. Yeah, I'm not going to say, stand on one leg and prove it, Jordan. But we can prove it.

One in a thousand people, ordinary people, will get that right. About 50, 60 percent of scientists will get that right. If I say prove that the Earth orbits around the sun— 90% of scientists will get that wrong. I bet most scientists watching this, I'm not going to put anybody on the spot. Including me. Yeah, I'm not going to say, stand on one leg and prove it, Jordan. But we can prove it.

It's discovered in the 1700s how you could do it. It's called stellar aberration. And I'll give the answer to the test. But Galileo, one of the greatest minds in human history, he believed, and he was right, that the Earth goes around the sun. And he went to great lengths. And I think this is so beautiful. We put so much emphasis on scientists. that they are sort of gods, right? They manipulate.