512. Time, Space, and the Miraculous | Dr. Brian Keating
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Hey, everybody, some announcements today before my description of the podcast with Dr. Brian Keating. So the first is I just published this book, We Who Wrestle With God, and it hit number one on the New York Times bestseller list. So I'm kind of happy for five different reasons about that. There's a tour associated with it, some of it in December. I'm going to be in Texas with my wife, our accompanying musician. And then from January through April, running through the United States. If you want more information about that, go to jordanbpeterson.com. The content of the tour... or the approach of the tour will be similar to my previous tours in that I'm taking abstract concepts, in this case, concepts associated with the realm of story, particularly the stories of the Old Testament. I'm explaining their conceptual significance, but I'm also extracting out the practical implications of that understanding for attention and for behavior. And so it's always my goal to make
what I'm discussing applicable immediately in the real world, and that continues in this lecture series. We've released a new seminar series for Daily Wire+, featuring the same players with a few substitutions, as partook in the Exodus seminar, which was very popular, this time devoted to explication of the Gospels, and so that released on The first in that series, 10-part series, released on December 1st, so you could go check that out as well. We're pretty excited about it. It seems to be performing a little better than the Exodus seminar did, which is saying quite something, because I think that was the most popular offering that The Daily Wire produced, apart from Matt Walsh's movies, which is pretty good, given that it's so, you know, they're actually...
intellectually complex and somewhat arcane and the fact they have this public appeal is really something terrific. So that's the announcements for the time being. I had the privilege today of speaking with Dr. Brian Keating, one of the world's leading cosmologists. Dr. Keating has been a guest on my podcast before and that was plenty of fun and We had an opportunity to continue our ongoing conversations. We talked a fair bit about his lecturing for Peterson Academy. He has a couple of courses on astronomy and cosmology there. We discussed the utility of the opportunity to bring high-quality mass education everywhere at very low cost, very well produced and at low cost. and so you know that was gratifying as far as i was concerned because that project has been quite a stellar success we have about 40 000 students and uh dr keating's offerings are very popular and deservedly so so you can follow us on the scientific side more intensely there we talked about
The relationship between science and ethics is a very tricky thing to tease out because the empirical presumption is that we build our representations of the world as a consequence of our experience of the facts of the world. That doesn't appear to be correct, precisely. That doesn't mean there are no facts. It means that the issue of what the relevant facts are is an important issue. And the determination of what facts are relevant and why is actually part of the enterprise that we describe as ethical. That's the definition of the ethical enterprise. And so we tried to... bandy back and forth various concepts of the relationship between the ethical and the scientific, or maybe even more particularly, the fact that for science to exist, it has to not only be embedded in an a priori ethical framework, but that the scientists who are practicing science have to be oriented by that ethic to be scientists.
You have to put your pursuit of the truth and beauty, which is another topic we touched on. You have to put your pursuit of truth and beauty in the service of humanity ahead of all other considerations. That's an ethical decision, not a scientific decision. And it's the ethical decision upon which all science that's genuine in its most abstract and glorious formulations and in its most practical elements is predicated. And so that constituted the bulk of our conversation. And there were many more things that we could have and would have liked to discuss, but that was plenty of grist for the mill. So join us for that.
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